More "real" SMC names please

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The SMC names in VotG are a combo of actual officers from the units that fought there and of the play testers that labored for many hours during its development.
We are playing a Greek-Italian scenario. I tried to find any Allied Minor leaders with Greek names, but only found a 6+1 named Papagos.

That made me sad. How can my Greek men hold off Mussolini's hordes with leaders like Boe and Isaacs....?
 

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We are playing a Greek-Italian scenario. I tried to find any Allied Minor leaders with Greek names, but only found a 6+1 named Papagos.

That made me sad. How can my Greek men hold off Mussolini's hordes with leaders like Boe and Isaacs....?
The problem with Allied Minors is that there are a lot of them, and they do not use consistent names. Boe works just fine as a Norwegian leader; as a Greek (or Pole or Yugoslav) not so good. You'd have to publish a separate set of leaders for each nationality, and even then for some countries you'd need several sets (e.g. USSR, USA, Yugoslavia) to account for all the nationalities within a state.

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The problem with Allied Minors is that there are a lot of them, and they do not use consistent names. Boe works just fine as a Norwegian leader; as a Greek (or Pole or Yugoslav) not so good. You'd have to publish a separate set of leaders for each nationality, and even then for some countries you'd need several sets (e.g. USSR, USA, Yugoslavia) to account for all the nationalities within a state.

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A problem with World Wars is that too many countries are involved, most of the time. Even if short like Denmark and Luxembourg. They did not hold out as long as the Dutch.

Just to note: I would not want Boe serving as a leader in any game using the Infantry Fire Table. He would greatly undermine morale.
 

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The SMC names in VotG are a combo of actual officers from the units that fought there and of the play testers that labored for many hours during its development.
Any way to find out more? There's a German 9-2 in VOTG with my family name and I neither helped with the module nor merit a 9-2, so can I assume someone with family name fought there? It's not a common name.
 

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Any way to find out more? There's a German 9-2 in VOTG with my family name and I neither helped with the module nor merit a 9-2, so can I assume someone with family name fought there? It's not a common name.
Mick Uhl was a playtester for the SL and ASL modules at TAHGC. The question of if you two are related, I'll leave it to you to investigate… :)
 

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Here is the list of names used for SMC in VotG. Actual names give their unit. Names w/ asterisk are Playtesters.

GERMAN SMC:
10-3 Col Roske (Kdr 194th Rgt)
10-3 Col Barnbeck (Kdr 211th Rgt)
10-2 Col Schmidt (Kdr 191st Rgt)
10-2 Capt Meunch (Kdr III./194th Rgt)
9-2 Maj von Holtey (Kdr Auf Abt 171)
9-2 Maj Henze (Kdr II/518th Regt)
9-2 Capt Dobberkau (Kdr I.& II./194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Will (Kdr 1.Kp/Pi Kdo 171)
9-1 Lt Hamm (Kdr 1-2Kp, 1-II/194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Haas (Kdr 9 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Wolff (Kdr 9 Kp, 191st Regt)
8-1 Lt Schulze (Kdr 6 Kp, 191st Regt)
8-1 Lt Lindau (Kdr 12 Kp, 191st Rgt)
8-1 Lt Markmann (Kdr 12 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
8-1 Lt Bunke (Kdr 4-8 Kp, I-II/194th Rgt)
8-0 Sgt Kraus (Kdr 10 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
8-0 Sgt Busche* (Mike Balis)
8-0 Sgt Wolke* (Rob Wolkey)
8-0 Sgt Lantelme (Kdr 5-7 Kp I-II/194th Rgt)
7-0 Cpl Krowger* (Richie Crowe)
7-0 Cpl Wright* (Jeff Wright)
7-0 Cpl Bartels (7./191st Rgt)
6+1 Gen von Hartmann (Kdr Inf Div 71)
6+1 Gen von Paulus (Kdr 6th Army)
1-4-9 Hamiltonn* (Charlie Hamilton)
1-4-9 Crusius (Lt, III./191st Rgt, wounded x2)

RUSSIAN SMC:
10-3 Col Yelin (CO 42 Gds Rgt)
10-2 Capt Zhukov (CO III./42 Gds Rgt)
10-2 Lt Fedoseyev (CO I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-2 Maj Andriyanov (CO II./42 Gds Rgt)
9-2 Lt Dragan (CO 1st Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Kravtsov (CO, 2nd Coy I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Koleganov (CO 3rd Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Dergach (CO SMG Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
8-1 Sgt Pavlov (Plt CO, 7th Coy, III./42 Gds Rgt)
8-1 Sgt Petrosky*. (Don Petros)
8-0 Sgt Holoboski* (Mark Holobosky)
8-0 Sgt Ivan* (Ivan Lindstrom - memory hazy but I think so)
8-0 Sgt Polnicky* (Wynn Polnicky)
7-0 Cpl Spellofsky* (Chris Spell)
7-0 Cpl Kozhushko (I./42 Gds Rgt)
6+1 Col Weinrub (CO 62nd Army Armored Forces)
6+1 Gen Rodimtsev (CO 13th Gds Div)
1-4-9 Berdyshev (I./42 Gds Rgt)
1-4-9 Loisellevich* (Allen Loiselle)
10-0 Com Allexenberg* (Mike Allexenberg)
10-0 Com Nogueirov* (Carl Nogueira)
10-0 Com Naiman* (Kiri Naiman)
10-0 Com Gorgorov* (Steve Pleva)
9-0 Com Viktor* (Vic Provost)
9-0 Com Ramzon* (Ralph McDonald)
9-0 Com Torkelseyev* (Jim Torkelson)
9-0 Com Evanovich* (BJ Evans)
8+1 Com Waldensky* (Bob Walden)
8+1 Com Petrakov (Colonel, CO 270th NKVD Rgt)
8+1 Com Kuznietsov (Major, CO 272nd NKVD Rgt)
8+1 Com Gochinsky* (Joe Gochinski)
 
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Not official but in one CH module there was one leader called Oliver and another called Gray Anyone else able to have their first and surname as leaders?
 
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M. is a good name.. or M.R.
 
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Not official but in one CH module there was one leader called Oliver and another called Grayanynoe else able to have their first surname as leaders?
Well there kind of is one person with this.

My cousin Mikko Lukkari was an important playtester for Hakkaa Päälle. It was decided he should have personal leader but as the 8-0 Sgt Lukkari was mine he got the 10-0 named Mikko instead.

So there is a first name and surname for him, but the surname is not 'his' personal leader but mine.
 
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Here is the list of names used for SMC in VotG. Actual names give their unit. Names w/ asterisk are Playtesters.
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8-0 Sgt Ivan* (Ivan Lindstrom - memory hazy but I think so)
Correct.
He was a member of FFE ASL Club in Fredericksburg, VA. Sadly, Ivan took his own life about 10 years ago.
 

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Here is the list of names used for SMC in VotG. Actual names give their unit. Names w/ asterisk are Playtesters.

GERMAN SMC:
10-3 Col Roske (Kdr 194th Rgt)
10-3 Col Barnbeck (Kdr 211th Rgt)
10-2 Col Schmidt (Kdr 191st Rgt)
10-2 Capt Meunch (Kdr III./194th Rgt)
9-2 Maj von Holtey (Kdr Auf Abt 171)
9-2 Maj Henze (Kdr II/518th Regt)
9-2 Capt Dobberkau (Kdr I.& II./194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Will (Kdr 1.Kp/Pi Kdo 171)
9-1 Lt Hamm (Kdr 1-2Kp, 1-II/194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Haas (Kdr 9 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
9-1 Lt Wolff (Kdr 9 Kp, 191st Regt)
8-1 Lt Schulze (Kdr 6 Kp, 191st Regt)
8-1 Lt Lindau (Kdr 12 Kp, 191st Rgt)
8-1 Lt Markmann (Kdr 12 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
8-1 Lt Bunke (Kdr 4-8 Kp, I-II/194th Rgt)
8-0 Sgt Kraus (Kdr 10 Kp, III/194th Rgt)
8-0 Sgt Busche* (Mike Balis)
8-0 Sgt Wolke* (Rob Wolkey)
8-0 Sgt Lantelme (Kdr 5-7 Kp I-II/194th Rgt)
7-0 Cpl Krowger* (Richie Crowe)
7-0 Cpl Wright* (Jeff Wright)
7-0 Cpl Bartels (7./191st Rgt)
6+1 Gen von Hartmann (Kdr Inf Div 71)
6+1 Gen von Paulus (Kdr 6th Army)
1-4-9 Hamiltonn* (Charlie Hamilton)
1-4-9 Crusius (Lt, III./191st Rgt, wounded x2)

RUSSIAN SMC:
10-3 Col Yelin (CO 42 Gds Rgt)
10-2 Capt Zhukov (CO III./42 Gds Rgt)
10-2 Lt Fedoseyev (CO I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-2 Maj Andriyanov (CO II./42 Gds Rgt)
9-2 Lt Dragan (CO 1st Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Kravtsov (CO, 2nd Coy I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Koleganov (CO 3rd Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
9-1 Lt Dergach (CO SMG Coy, I./42 Gds Rgt)
8-1 Sgt Pavlov (Plt CO, 7th Coy, III./42 Gds Rgt)
8-1 Sgt Petrosky*. (Don Petros)
8-0 Sgt Holoboski* (Mark Holobosky)
8-0 Sgt Ivan* (Ivan Lindstrom - memory hazy but I think so)
8-0 Sgt Polnicky* (Wynn Polnicky)
7-0 Cpl Spellofsky* (Chris Spell)
7-0 Cpl Kozhushko (I./42 Gds Rgt)
6+1 Col Weinrub (CO 62nd Army Armored Forces)
6+1 Gen Rodimtsev (CO 13th Gds Div)
1-4-9 Berdyshev (I./42 Gds Rgt)
1-4-9 Loisellevich* (Allen Loiselle)
10-0 Com Allexenberg* (Mike Allexenberg)
10-0 Com Nogueirov* (Carl Nogueira)
10-0 Com Naiman* (Kiri Naiman)
10-0 Com Gorgorov* (Steve Pleva)
9-0 Com Viktor* (Vic Provost)
9-0 Com Ramzon* (Ralph McDonald)
9-0 Com Torkelseyev* (Jim Torkelson)
9-0 Com Evanovich* (BJ Evans)
8+1 Com Waldensky* (Bob Walden)
8+1 Com Petrakov (Colonel, CO 270th NKVD Rgt)
8+1 Com Kuznietsov (Major, CO 272nd NKVD Rgt)
8+1 Com Gochinsky* (Joe Gochinski)
I wish similar care was taken for other nationalities....
 

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To be honest, I'd say it would be fine if the standard SMC counters didn't have names. Then HASLs could have "historical" SMC names.

But, overall, I don't much look at the names. They're written too small for my eyes.
 
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