MG v AFV

[Philippe D.]

I still don't get why an LMG is prohibited from doing so, when an ATR isn't

MGs are also unable to score CHs - I believe the possibility of a critically placed bullet is already taken into account in figuring their TK. Maybe something similar was factored in the design of the rule.

When firing an ATR at an AFV, you're using the weapon to try to do what it was designed to do. When firing a MG at the same... well, you're attracting attention to yourself, with (supposedly) little chance of successfully damaging it. So the rules try not to make you do it too often.

 

[Juan SantaX]

From a battle record of the Halftracks, Kradschützen Abt 4 in 16th August 42 (Death of the leaping horseman, the 24th Panzer Division at Stalingrad , Jason D, Mark):

"...We drove forward carefully with our right flank along the gully, ready to turn off at any time. All of a sudden we were halted by anti-tank rifle and machine-gun fire coming from a small hollow about 100 metres away. I received several hits but they bounced off. Both armored glass blocks were shattered...."

So MG fire maybe was just to disable the vision slits and make the crew falter...

 

[asloser]

From a battle record of the Halftracks, Kradschützen Abt 4 in 16th August 42 (Death of the leaping horseman, the 24th Panzer Division at Stalingrad , Jason D, Mark):

"...We drove forward carefully with our right flank along the gully, ready to turn off at any time. All of a sudden we were halted by anti-tank rifle and machine-gun fire coming from a small hollow about 100 metres away. I received several hits but they bounced off. Both armored glass blocks were shattered...."

So MG fire maybe was just to disable the vision slits and make the crew falter...

Actually if you study the TK table you’ll notice it is quite probable that MG will get a stun result against lightly armored AFVs. So this is built into the system.

And 1MT tanks suffer a recall from the first stun result. I am firing my Allied minor French and British MGs at PzIs all the time in 1939-40 scenarios.

 

[Eagle4ty]

Tate Rogers has a good article in ASL Annual '97 What Do You Do When You Have a Can Opener? Early war AFVs, APCs, several TDs and many Japanese vehicles are susceptible to fire from MGs.

 

[asloser]

Tate Rogers has a good article in ASL Annual '97 What Do You Do When You Have a Can Opener? Early war AFVs, APCs, several TDs and many Japanese vehicles are susceptible to fire from MGs.

One of the essential AFV articles to read.

 

[VonHutier]

Looking at the IIFT yesterday, I noticed the * vehicle line ( which is used when a TH is not needed ) starts at 3 - doesn't that preclude most LMGs, which generally have a 2 FP, from successfully attacking AFVs?

 

[klasmalmstrom]

Looking at the IIFT yesterday, I noticed the * vehicle line ( which is used when a TH is not needed ) starts at 3 - doesn't that preclude most LMGs, which generally have a 2 FP, from successfully attacking AFVs?

The "Vehicle * Line" isn't used when attacking AFV.....

 

[VonHutier]

The "Vehicle * Line" isn't used when attacking AFV.....

My bad, all this is starting to get confusing...I presumably meant unarmoured vehicles...

 

[klasmalmstrom]

My bad, all this is starting to get confusing...I presumably meant unarmoured vehicles...

An LMG would typically attack an unarmored vehicle in the 2-FP column, which has a * Vehicle number of 4.