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are there any tips that experienced map designers can give to rookies

i know that it's all up to a particular scenario and a map area, but you sometimes hear that a scenario was updated and the map was optimised for faster supply calculations, etc., so i reckon there must be some map making dos and don't, especially with huge maps
 

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m5000 said:
are there any tips that experienced map designers can give to rookies

i know that it's all up to a particular scenario and a map area, but you sometimes hear that a scenario was updated and the map was optimised for faster supply calculations, etc., so i reckon there must be some map making dos and don't, especially with huge maps
I've written a couple of articles on map making that are in the article section of this board. You might want to look them over:

http://toaw.xtreme-gamer.com/?p=10

http://toaw.xtreme-gamer.com/?p=11

Supply calculations are affected exponentially by supply radius and linearly by number of supply points and map useable land area.
 

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sstevens06 said:
The map scaler is not version-specific.
Or indeed game specific. You could use the output for anything you wanted.

This is the easiest way to make a good map. I've used it many times. Probably the best way, though, is Bob Cross' latlong program, linked above. That'll get everything exactly right.
 

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Ben Turner said:
Or indeed game specific. You could use the output for anything you wanted.

This is the easiest way to make a good map. I've used it many times. Probably the best way, though, is Bob Cross' latlong program, linked above. That'll get everything exactly right.
I'm sure that Curt Chambers will have a special place in wargamer's Valhalla for writing that program.
 

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hey,

lotsa different kinds.... some military...some just topographical...etc...

what do ya need?

bdr.
 

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if you had and could share maps of central europe, esp. poland, eastern germany, western byelorussia and ukraine, the czech republic, the baltic states (esp lithuania), about 1:300 000 would be perfect, topographical or military, the older, the better, preferably 1938-1946, or maps of ww2 fortifications in the above-mentioned areas
 

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hey,

here is a pretty good link for a lot of maps.
I should probably post this in the download section...

hope you find what you need.

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/mapworld/index.html

(click on Select country on the right)

as well as....this is a common link though...
the first link may be the best..the latter is more military and historic.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=militaryhistory&zu=http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/history_ww2.html

Good luck eh!

Bombardier
 

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Bob Cross said:
I've written a couple of articles on map making that are in the article section of this board. You might want to look them over:

http://toaw.xtreme-gamer.com/?p=10

http://toaw.xtreme-gamer.com/?p=11

Supply calculations are affected exponentially by supply radius and linearly by number of supply points and map useable land area.
1. it's about the latlong program

you write that the program gives latlong values for each hex, i'm trying to make sense of all these numbers... - do the latlong coordinates generated by your program indicate central points of each hex?

2. also, the New Millenium World Atlas that you mention has a 'Locator Map' option which can be 'Globe' or 'Wall Map' - does the choice here make any difference as far as coordinates are concerned? in fact, there is also "Hide' - which option should be used for best accuracy?
 
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m5000 said:
1. it's about the latlong program

you write that the program gives latlong values for each hex, i'm trying to make sense of all these numbers... - do the latlong coordinates generated by your program indicate central points of each hex?
That's my understanding. Find the latitude and longitude of any point and then find the cell on the spreadsheet (you did import it into excel, right?) which is closest to that.
 

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That's my understanding. Find the latitude and longitude of any point and then find the cell on the spreadsheet (you did import it into excel, right?) which is closest to that.
yes i did, i got something like this:
 

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so, e.g. the central pooint of hex 1 is (56.9775, 15.0042), the central point of another hex i (56.9550, 15.0908), and so on ?
 

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m5000 said:
so, e.g. the central pooint of hex 1 is (56.9775, 15.0042), the central point of another hex i (56.9550, 15.0908), and so on ?
Basically. You could choose to interpret it differently (i.e., the reference as being the bottom right hand corner of the hex, and any values further east or south by even 1 minute would be in another hex), and still get good results. You might actually find that easier to do.
 

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Ben Turner said:
Basically. You could choose to interpret it differently (i.e., the reference as being the bottom right hand corner of the hex...
you mean this? -
 
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