Manila errata!

[Honza]

Over on FB we found some errata for the Manila module. It concerns SSR SF10 which states that Mortars with a M#10 or more and ALL AA Guns may set up on the roofs of buildings. But it should say that Mortars AND AA Guns with a M#10 or more can set up on roofs.....

 

[Honza]

We realised when it dawned on us that the rule as written allowed the 120L AA Guns to set up on the roofs!

 

[pj norton]

Lol!

 

[JRKrejsa]

That’s a heck of a roof! I’d never worry about storm damage again!

 

[Old Noob]

Or having to listen to squirrels running around on it either!

 

[Actionjick]

We realised when it dawned on us that the rule as written allowed the 120L AA Guns to set up on the roofs!

Better view from the roof.

 

[ASLSARGE]

Over on FB we found some errata for the Manila module. It concerns SSR SF10 which states that Mortars with a M#10 or more and ALL AA Guns may set up on the roofs of buildings. But it should say that Mortars AND AA Guns with a M#10 or more can set up on roofs.....

I notified Perry and Chas and they are aware of this issue....thanks. Another issue is in the Intro to Scenario 25....there is a line of text missing. MMP will begin compiling errata in a while.

 

[JR Brackin]

I have a question relating to SF4.43 LOS. Basically this is saying that a unit next to a enemy unit in a cellar location cannot shoot at that location. If you are not able to get into a cellar location then the only way to cobat enemy units in a cellar location is through CC. Is this correct?

 

[ASLSARGE]

LOS exists between adjacent cellar locations within the same building, just like adjacent locations upstairs. No LOS exists between units outside of the building (even if adjacent) and units in the cellar.
MMP reworded the original text when editing. The original text reads as follows...
"Units in a Cellar Location only have a LOS to adjacent Cellar Locations and the Location directly above them if in a hex with a printed stairwell or steeple symbol. No fire attacks are possible between units in a Cellar Location and any Locations outside of that building, or against any adjacent non-Cellar Location or any locations above a Cellar Locations that does not contain a printed stairwell symbol."
Hope that helps.....looks like errata note #3 huh?

 

[JR Brackin]

Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[JR Brackin]

I have a follow up question - since there is no LOS and it is not Fortified can a Breach be placed to allow LOS from Adjacent hex like B23.711 and Rowhouses? It seems odd that if a Trench connects and allows entry that LOS would be Blocked. Please confirm this also.

thank you,

 

[klasmalmstrom]

LOS exists between adjacent cellar locations within the same building, just like adjacent locations upstairs. No LOS exists between units outside of the building (even if adjacent) and units in the cellar.
MMP reworded the original text when editing. The original text reads as follows...
"Units in a Cellar Location only have a LOS to adjacent Cellar Locations and the Location directly above them if in a hex with a printed stairwell or steeple symbol. No fire attacks are possible between units in a Cellar Location and any Locations outside of that building, or against any adjacent non-Cellar Location or any locations above a Cellar Locations that does not contain a printed stairwell symbol."
Hope that helps.....looks like errata note #3 huh?

Looks to me that SF4.43 is saying what the red text is saying:
4.43 LOS: LOS to/from a SF Cellar exists only between ADJACENT Locations within the same building. A unit in a SF Cellar Location may never claim Wall Advantage.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I have a follow up question - since there is no LOS and it is not Fortified can a Breach be placed to allow LOS from Adjacent hex like B23.711 and Rowhouses?

There is not rule saying you can do that....

 

[JR Brackin]

Klas, thanks I appreciate the response. Just trying to wrap my head around it all so I can use it to my advantage when I can get in a game of Manilla!

 

[Honza]

Looks to me that SF4.43 is saying what the red text is saying:
4.43 LOS: LOS to/from a SF Cellar exists only between ADJACENT Locations within the same building. A unit in a SF Cellar Location may never claim Wall Advantage.

Yes, that is pretty clear.

 

[pensatl1962]

Preparing to play CGIII 1st Cavalry Moves South as the American. My opponent pointed out (CG Special Rules CGIII.1) that "the Japanese reinforcements enter along the north/west edge(s) in Phase One and along the north edge in Phase Two." Map section in play for Phase one is sections 5 and 6 south of Isaac Peral Street -- the issue being that the west edge is all water (Manila Bay). Should this just be interpreted as "north" edge only?

 

[ASLSARGE]

Preparing to play CGIII 1st Cavalry Moves South as the American. My opponent pointed out (CG Special Rules CGIII.1) that "the Japanese reinforcements enter along the north/west edge(s) in Phase One and along the north edge in Phase Two." Map section in play for Phase one is sections 5 and 6 south of Isaac Peral Street -- the issue being that the west edge is all water (Manila Bay). Should this just be interpreted as "north" edge only?

Japanese units entering along west edge of map 5 set up along the shore edge hexes and move inland from there.

 

[pensatl1962]

Japanese units entering along west edge of map 5 set up along the shore edge taxes and move inland from there.

Thanks very much!

 

[Horrido]

Just want to verify that ETO terrain is in effect, and not PTO.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

Just want to verify that ETO terrain is in effect, and not PTO.

Correct...