LV Hindrance auto-reminder?

[Tuomo]

I'm about to play U5 Point d'Appui, where a +1 LV Hindrance is in effect for non-CC attacks, regardless of range.

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering how that might be rolled into VASL, cuz I sure hate forgetting that stupid DRM. Like, would you want to just add a third die, maybe grey to indicate the LV-ness, to the DR?



Or perhaps that third die could be bumped up or down depending on the range, if the level of LV hindrance were affected by range, as it often is? Course, that would require you to actually string the LOS, even when you don't need to.

Just wondering what kind of good auto-reminder of the LV would look like.

 

[von Marwitz]

I'm about to play U5 Point d'Appui, where a +1 LV Hindrance is in effect for non-CC attacks, regardless of range.

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering how that might be rolled into VASL, cuz I sure hate forgetting that stupid DRM. Like, would you want to just add a third die, maybe grey to indicate the LV-ness, to the DR?

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Or perhaps that third die could be bumped up or down depending on the range, if the level of LV hindrance were affected by range, as it often is? Course, that would require you to actually string the LOS, even when you don't need to.

Just wondering what kind of good auto-reminder of the LV would look like.

There is an extension in existance already, that rolls 3 dice. Or is it even inherent to VASL? These 3dr are, however, not keyed to particular sorts of DR (Rally, SA, IFT, TH, etc.).

von Marwitz

 

[hongkongwargamer]

I'm about to play U5 Point d'Appui, where a +1 LV Hindrance is in effect for non-CC attacks, regardless of range.

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering how that might be rolled into VASL, cuz I sure hate forgetting that stupid DRM. Like, would you want to just add a third die, maybe grey to indicate the LV-ness, to the DR?

View attachment 17344

Or perhaps that third die could be bumped up or down depending on the range, if the level of LV hindrance were affected by range, as it often is? Course, that would require you to actually string the LOS, even when you don't need to.

Just wondering what kind of good auto-reminder of the LV would look like.

No ... I just turn the rain/mist on (throws a fuzzy layer on) to remind myself of that.

 

[BattleSchool]

I'm about to play U5 Point d'Appui, where a +1 LV Hindrance is in effect for non-CC attacks, regardless of range.

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering how that might be rolled into VASL, cuz I sure hate forgetting that stupid DRM. Like, would you want to just add a third die, maybe grey to indicate the LV-ness, to the DR?

View attachment 17344

Or perhaps that third die could be bumped up or down depending on the range, if the level of LV hindrance were affected by range, as it often is? Course, that would require you to actually string the LOS, even when you don't need to.

Just wondering what kind of good auto-reminder of the LV would look like.

Great thinking outside the bot!

A third (grey) die could be coded to work as a generic LV die, or a (pale-yellow) Sun-Blindness die, both of which would be fairly straightforward because their values remain constant. Changing the value based on range sounds like a lot of work. But I'd use the feature if it were available.

Perhaps a little less effort would be needed to come up with a (tan) dust die that could be toggled to auto FRD or FRU as required.

 

[MTL]

The next version of VASL has added a third die for dust rolls keyed to IFT, TH and MC rolls (for routing), and gives you the dust-adjusted total for the roll if you set the dust level using the new dust shader button, so it wouldn't be too difficult to add / rework this as a similar environmental enhancement.

 

[hongkongwargamer]

The next version of VASL has added a third die for dust rolls keyed to IFT, TH and MC rolls (for routing), and gives you the dust-adjusted total for the roll if you set the dust level using the new dust shader button, so it wouldn't be too difficult to add / rework this as a similar environmental enhancement.

Happy to test any prototypes!

 

[buser333]

I'm about to play U5 Point d'Appui, where a +1 LV Hindrance is in effect for non-CC attacks, regardless of range.

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering how that might be rolled into VASL, cuz I sure hate forgetting that stupid DRM. Like, would you want to just add a third die, maybe grey to indicate the LV-ness, to the DR?

View attachment 17344

Or perhaps that third die could be bumped up or down depending on the range, if the level of LV hindrance were affected by range, as it often is? Course, that would require you to actually string the LOS, even when you don't need to.

Just wondering what kind of good auto-reminder of the LV would look like.

I think that is a fantastic idea.

 

[MTL]

Gents, if you want to try the 1st iteration of LV aware VASL, here's the link:

vasl-6.6.2-beta-LV.vmod

drive.google.com

1. This is based off the latest 6.2 VASL beta - you need version 3.5 of VASSAL to use it.
2. To use, click the 'LV' button to toggle +1 LV:

You will see the following in the chatter:


3. WHen you click in 'IFT' or 'TH', the chatter output will remind you of the LV, and give you the adjusted roll total:



Also works for the Night button:



There is also support for dust in 6.2 already using the dust button:


Which cycles through dust levels, rolls a dust die for you on IFT/TH/MC (for interdictions) and gives you the +/- adjusted totals, FRD for light and FRU for moderate:


and they all work in conjunction with each other:

Though I doubt you'd get LV & dust at the same time.

 

[von Marwitz]

Gents, if you want to try the 1st iteration of LV aware VASL, here's the link:

vasl-6.6.2-beta-LV.vmod

drive.google.com

1. This is based off the latest 6.2 VASL beta - you need version 3.5 of VASSAL to use it.
2. To use, click the 'LV' button to toggle +1 LV:

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You will see the following in the chatter:
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3. WHen you click in 'IFT' or 'TH', the chatter output will remind you of the LV, and give you the adjusted roll total:
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Also works for the Night button:

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There is also support for dust in 6.2 already using the dust button:
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Which cycles through dust levels, rolls a dust die for you on IFT/TH/MC (for interdictions) and gives you the +/- adjusted totals, FRD for light and FRU for moderate:
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and they all work in conjunction with each other:
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Though I doubt you'd get LV & dust at the same time.

Nice function!

Except that the color of the third die is unbearable...

Looking at the Preferences, I have not found any place to adjust the color for the 3rd die.
My suggestion is to extend the options in the Preferences to allow it.



von Marwitz

 

[MTL]

Nice function!

Except that the color of the third die is unbearable...

Looking at the Preferences, I have not found any place to adjust the color for the 3rd die.
My suggestion is to extend the options in the Preferences to allow it.

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von Marwitz

No, it's not in the config - but added to the list!

 

[hongkongwargamer]

View attachment 17457

You will see the following in the chatter:
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3. WHen you click in 'IFT' or 'TH', the chatter output will remind you of the LV, and give you the adjusted roll total:
View attachment 17459

Is it possible to make the "+1 LV" bit a toggle? So I can hit the RAIN button and NOT have the "+1 LV" message? 'Cause Rain/ Mist LV varies by distance and I want a choice to NOT have the "+1 LV" message when I hit the RAIN button and put a haze over the board as a reminder.

 

[MTL]

V2 here:

vasl-6.6.2-beta-LV.2.vmod

drive.google.com

As requested:

Dust dice colour can be configured via 'Chat Window' preferences, LV cycles through a range of options and reminders, the first being shading only:

 

[hongkongwargamer]

V2 here:

vasl-6.6.2-beta-LV.2.vmod

drive.google.com

As requested:

Dust dice colour can be configured via 'Chat Window' preferences, LV cycles through a range of options and reminders, the first being shading only:


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Congrats!! This thing works like a charm. I like the "dust shading" over the map as well. Lovely. Well done!
@DougRim check this out

 

[MTL]

No problem!

 

[DougRim]

Morris, I just double-checked the VASL6.6.2-beta3.vmod and it looks like only V1 of your changes made it. The third die does not show up when Night alone is selected nor is the colour changeable in preferences.

I think we missed a commit somewhere. My error. Could you double-check and push any outstanding changes to develop in github. That way, they will be in the official release of VASL6.6.3.vmod

 

[MTL]

Ahh - yes, the branch was well out of date, Doug, and unmerged... my fault! Created a new branch with the above changes on github (to get the latest buildfile), and there is a PR awaiting your inspection.

 

[DougRim]

Ahh - yes, the branch was well out of date, Doug, and unmerged... my fault! Created a new branch with the above changes on github (to get the latest buildfile), and there is a PR awaiting your inspection.

Done. Go ahead and merge.