Russ Isaia
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Abstract Art.Bad Art.
Have you ever drawn an ASL map? Or any other map that needs a hex grid to be applied on it?P.S. I am in awe of anyone with the technical skill, knowledge, and experience to produce work of this high quality. Thank you.
As my post made clear (I thought), I have not made a game map of any sort. That should not bar me from having an opinion on what I like and don't like, however. I can't replicate the paintings of Picasso: that should not mean I can't opine that they suck (my apologies to any admirers of his work but I prefer more realism in my art).Hi Russ,
Have you ever drawn an ASL map? Or any other map that needs a hex grid to be applied on it?
Tom has done a great job with Inor's map, and if you don't like it, this is fine, there's no need for you to use it.
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PS: welcome.
Well, I think that having an opinion means "I don't like", while saying "it sucks" it is more an "insulting free statement" .... In my opinionThat should not bar me from having an opinion on what I like and don't like, however. I can't replicate the paintings of Picasso: that should not mean I can't opine that they suck (my apologies to any admirers of his work but I prefer more realism in my art).
Naw, a difference of degree only. "[Opining] that it sucks" just means that "I really really don't like it."Well, I think that having an opinion means "I don't like", while saying "it sucks" it is more an "insulting free statement" .... In my opinion
There have been some good scenarios designed on HASL maps that were outside the theaters of which the map was designed. This map could easily be used to depict terrain in many scenarios which feature hill assaults. You do not need to use the whole map. I'm thinking Italy, Tunisia, Balkans and Caucasus here.This map will make for a good late war SASL CG too.
By ignoring the word insult and it's fellow synonyms, it could really really free up the court system, too;Naw, a difference of degree only. "[Opining] that it sucks" just means that "I really really don't like it."
I don't think the hexgrid has much to apologize for except hedges, walls and maybe cliffs (and then only because rules such as Wall Advantage, PBF vs. TPBF, no entry of enemy-occupied hexes), etc. might have a difficult time with hedges, walls or cliffs that were within a hex, rather than on its hexside(s)). Nor is any apology needed from anyone when regularized buildings, roads and other manmade terrain are employed: that is the way man builds, both on the ground and on a representation of the ground (i.e., a map). It's the natural terrain where the mapmaker has to be careful not to regularize the terrain too much or risk a less pleasing result. IMO of course.Since the triangular buildings and 60° angled roads of Board 1 (simulating... Stalingrad!), I have accepted that the hexgrid imposed abstracted terrain - which is more perceptible at the low scale of SL/ASL.
Not so. I am thinking more along the lines of the formal gardens seen in the rear of the great houses of Regency England, with manicured trees and hedges, fountains and statutory on acres of land. Forty meter wide regularly spaced copses of trees is not enough. But maybe that was not so much a Continental thing by 1940.Board 6 is so wrong on many aspects.
The Chateau is about 200 meters wide, the gardens are huge (you have the impression that the 40 meters wide woods represent a tree each).
Only nostalgia (recalling the CoD famed scenarios) saves it.
LFT's Warsaw map has a few of those, around the Palace. (Teaser!)Board 6 never made sense to me without extensive formal gardens at least to the rear instead of those orchards (so plebeian!).
Good use of overlays helps the appearance/"realism" of bd6.Board 6 is so wrong on many aspects.
The Chateau is about 200 meters wide, the gardens are huge (you have the impression that the 40 meters wide woods represent a tree each).
Only nostalgia (recalling the CoD famed scenarios) saves it.
Wait, did you say "we went on the battlefield"? Toktong is in N Korea. Do tell us about that visit please.In fact, the map has been drawn from a 1950 map of the area (with some modifications to take into account the change since 1940). The hill reflects the elevations depicted on this map. We went on the battlefield with a copy of the first draft of the map and we found that it was pretty accurate (we changed 2-3 hexes following this visit).
And Tom did a great job to make it beautiful.
Regards
lionel
Uhm..., they are talking about the France, May 1940 map (Inor, France)Wait, did you say "we went on the battlefield"? Toktong is in N Korea. Do tell us about that visit please.