Leader Direction of a MG Bore sight shot

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Treated a leader as firing for purposes of marking him with a first fire or final fire counter is not the same as the unit firing for BS or SF purposes. Unless he is heroic, he does not have FP to add and does not "fire." EXC: CC.
 

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Steeply implying he's =not= firing and kinda begging the Q, Why mark a non-firing unit w/a fire marker?

[Much was simpler and saner when fire direction =was= treated as firing. Just saying.]
Could very well be the case - I don't recall being "involved" (for lack of a better word) in any discussion back when this errata came about....

I think both the current wording and the original wording had its issues...
 

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I watched a very experienced ASL player spend a few minutes trying every iteration of bypass and so forth to desperately move his entire double MMG kill stack into my boresighted location during a single opening move. To my delight he finally figured it out and then inexplicably actually moved there (instead of waiting for APh). Rolled box cars and broke my MMG...

Oh, and I was combining BS with leader direction in that case - not that it ended up mattering.
 

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I watched a very experienced ASL player spend a few minutes trying every iteration of bypass and so forth to desperately move his entire double MMG kill stack into my boresighted location during a single opening move. To my delight he finally figured it out and then inexplicably actually moved there (instead of waiting for APh). Rolled box cars and broke my MMG...

Oh, and I was combining BS with leader direction in that case - not that it ended up mattering.
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Note that Mark Nixon's scenario analysis article (Cold Crocodiles) in General vol 28 #2 talks about a 9-2 directed HMG attack in a BS location as being a 6 down 4 attack. People have been combining BS and leader direction for a very long time.
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Note that Mark Nixon's scenario analysis article (Cold Crocodiles) in General vol 28 #2 talks about a 9-2 directed HMG attack in a BS location as being a 6 down 4 attack. People have been combining BS and leader direction for a very long time.
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Is this discussion based on the BS MG and leader DRM only being applied to the attack by the MG, and doesn't include the inherent FP of the squad manning the MG? I'm assuming that's the case but just wanted to be sure.
 

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Is this discussion based on the BS MG and leader DRM only being applied to the attack by the MG, and doesn't include the inherent FP of the squad manning the MG? I'm assuming that's the case but just wanted to be sure.
It has to be as the squad cannot bore sight so if they fire, the only DRY would be leader direction.
 
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