HIP Fortificacions Setup

FlavioBelisario

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Hi!

I need some advice. I'm starting a VASL game (ASL135 Acts of Defiance), and i'm not sure what happens with russian units whom setup in HIP fortifications ( beneath Wires or Foxholes). This units start HIP too? I'm thinking in this fortifications like a building fortification, Wire and Foxhole are HIP, but the units beneath them are not. My opponent (the russian player indeed) thinks that this units start HIP too. If he is correct and the units start HIP, when this Wire/Foxhole must be revealed (it's in non concealment terrain and LOS of a german good order unit), this units are revealed? Concealed or not in this case?

Thanks in advance. I don't write english, so i beg your pardon if this text is difficult to understand.
 

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Fortifications start out HIP. They come on board as soon as the other side has LOS to it.

Units in fortifications are not HIP (unless there is an SSR changing that).
 

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Fortifications start out HIP. They come on board as soon as the other side has LOS to it.

Units in fortifications are not HIP (unless there is an SSR changing that).
The exception would be units set up in a pillbox. They set up hidden if the pillbox does.
 

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Units in fortifications are not HIP (unless there is an SSR changing that).
If a Pillbox sets up HIP, so do its contents (B30.7). If the Pillbox loses HIP status, this does not necessarily apply to its contents.

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Hi!

I need some advice. I'm starting a VASL game (ASL135 Acts of Defiance), and i'm not sure what happens with russian units whom setup in HIP fortifications ( beneath Wires or Foxholes). This units start HIP too? I'm thinking in this fortifications like a building fortification, Wire and Foxhole are HIP, but the units beneath them are not. My opponent (the russian player indeed) thinks that this units start HIP too. If he is correct and the units start HIP, when this Wire/Foxhole must be revealed (it's in non concealment terrain and LOS of a german good order unit), this units are revealed? Concealed or not in this case?

Thanks in advance. I don't write english, so i beg your pardon if this text is difficult to understand.
I don’t remember wire or foxholes in Acts of Definance. Hmmm....
 

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Here’s two (I think it’s safe to say) experts playing ‘Acts of Defiance’ for the last ASLOK championship, you can see the scenario card. There are no wire or foxholes. Maybe I’ve been moved to a alternate reality, what the hell is going on?24618
 
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