turlusiflu
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As per A12.12, The player setting up first in a scenario does so out of vision of his opponent, and after setting up his regular units may place only scenario OB-designated "?" at first—but only in Terrain listed in red in the Terrain Chart/Desert Terrain Chart/PTO Terrain Chart . After his opponent sets up in the same manner, each unconcealed unit (of both sides) which is either out of the LOS of all unbroken enemy ground units within 16 hexes of it, or at ≥ 17 hexes from all of them, may have a "?" not designated by the OB placed on it.
As per A12.34, ...An Emplaced Gun may also always use HIP if not in Concealment Terrain, provided it sets up out of the LOS of all enemy ground units—but must be placed onboard under a "?" as soon as a Good Order enemy ground unit has a LOS to it regardless of range, e.g., at the start of the first RPh.
So (under a sequential point of view), if the player setting up first sets an Emplaced Gun in non-Concealment Terrain can do so, as there is no enemy in LOS. Then, if the opponent sets his units onboard and in LOS of the Hidden Gun, this Gun is put onboard under a "?". But the second player has also an Emplaced Gun, and if he sets up it in non-Concealment Terrain and in LOS of the enemy units, it cannot be put under a "?". It seems "unfair" for the second player, so I wonder if this setup has to be considered "simultaneous", so neither of the Guns could be set up hidden/concealed under the conditions above.
As per A12.34, ...An Emplaced Gun may also always use HIP if not in Concealment Terrain, provided it sets up out of the LOS of all enemy ground units—but must be placed onboard under a "?" as soon as a Good Order enemy ground unit has a LOS to it regardless of range, e.g., at the start of the first RPh.
So (under a sequential point of view), if the player setting up first sets an Emplaced Gun in non-Concealment Terrain can do so, as there is no enemy in LOS. Then, if the opponent sets his units onboard and in LOS of the Hidden Gun, this Gun is put onboard under a "?". But the second player has also an Emplaced Gun, and if he sets up it in non-Concealment Terrain and in LOS of the enemy units, it cannot be put under a "?". It seems "unfair" for the second player, so I wonder if this setup has to be considered "simultaneous", so neither of the Guns could be set up hidden/concealed under the conditions above.
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