Elvis
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Gustav Line module released
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I deploy in 4 weeks and so I can't really start any games right now. I will only be taking my old win xp laptop and I don't think it can take CMBN.
i will try and load it up thou to see if it will work after a fashion as it used to take CMSF.
The module got a 9/10 from the reviewer at eurogamer.dk. The only weakness he could find was that he thought the series was losing its "pathos":
"Seriens svaghed, hvis man accepterer at det overhovedet er en svaghed, er, at den år for år mister patos. Da Combat Mission kom på markedet i 1999 var det netop på det parameter, at det fejede alle konkurrenter af banen. Aldrig havde wargamere kunne se krigen på så nært hold. Men som årene er gået, er krigens drama i Combat Mission ligesom sandet lidt til. "
Transl.: "The series' weakness, if you accept that there is one at all, is that it, year by year, loses its pathos. When Combat Mission came to the market in '99, it was precisely because it blew away all the competition. Never had wargamers been able to see war at such a close distance. But as the years have passed by, the drama of war in Combat Mission has become a bit dusty".
So apparently the players who for some reason feel an urge to give this game a 9/10 are also getting bored...
"Seriens svaghed, hvis man accepterer at det overhovedet er en svaghed, er, at den år for år mister patos. Da Combat Mission kom på markedet i 1999 var det netop på det parameter, at det fejede alle konkurrenter af banen. Aldrig havde wargamere kunne se krigen på så nært hold. Men som årene er gået, er krigens drama i Combat Mission ligesom sandet lidt til. "
Transl.: "The series' weakness, if you accept that there is one at all, is that it, year by year, loses its pathos. When Combat Mission came to the market in '99, it was precisely because it blew away all the competition. Never had wargamers been able to see war at such a close distance. But as the years have passed by, the drama of war in Combat Mission has become a bit dusty".
So apparently the players who for some reason feel an urge to give this game a 9/10 are also getting bored...
The only really new thing for a long while was the MG fix.
And that has a bitter bytaste because it was very painful discussing it against the fanbois and quite honestly the situation was an exact mirror of CMBO and the MG fix in CMBB, I don't think it would be outrageous to say that maybe such a problem shouldn't have been in CMBN.
And that has a bitter bytaste because it was very painful discussing it against the fanbois and quite honestly the situation was an exact mirror of CMBO and the MG fix in CMBB, I don't think it would be outrageous to say that maybe such a problem shouldn't have been in CMBN.
The only really new thing for a long while was the MG fix.
And that has a bitter bytaste because it was very painful discussing it against the fanbois and quite honestly the situation was an exact mirror of CMBO and the MG fix in CMBB, I don't think it would be outrageous to say that maybe such a problem shouldn't have been in CMBN.
And that has a bitter bytaste because it was very painful discussing it against the fanbois and quite honestly the situation was an exact mirror of CMBO and the MG fix in CMBB, I don't think it would be outrageous to say that maybe such a problem shouldn't have been in CMBN.
I've tried it and it really changes the way the game is played. MGs now fire much more rapidly and can really be devastating on defence and attack. This gives an advantage to the side with more heavier guns and now when attacking against MG you can't just leap from cover to cover as before.
The downside to this of course is that it probably makes the game ever harder to learn than before for new players. So MG become much more effective but fighting against them becomes much less fun.
I stopped testing individual combat mechanics in CM. It makes me upset.
NUTTERNAME
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The new MG-Fix for CM came with the "patch-to-the-upgrade" for CMBN 2.0. It's probably the reason that I jumped in...along with the broken promise regarding Market Garden coming down the chute.
It is certainly a game-changer. Comparing the CMFI demo-play shananigens to the CMBN 2.0 game-play, it is readily evident that the game is modeling firepower more realistically. I will always break off a automatic weapon team and strive to get them the best flank position. 'Owning' fields, especially from a flank, can yield some serious kill numbers.
It is certainly a game-changer. Comparing the CMFI demo-play shananigens to the CMBN 2.0 game-play, it is readily evident that the game is modeling firepower more realistically. I will always break off a automatic weapon team and strive to get them the best flank position. 'Owning' fields, especially from a flank, can yield some serious kill numbers.
Elvis
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Those are things that CMBN 2.x included and are added to Italy now.
Elvis
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Did I miss the announcement that MG was canceled?
NUTTERNAME
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Maybe (Who said it was canceled?), but you did miss the fact that Steve had said that Market Garden was next. Not Gustav. And, yes, we went through this already.
I was thinking about this in relation to another game (an old tabletop wargame). How are such mechanics validated? Is there sufficient detailed and consistent evidence from real-world conflicts?
Elvis
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The bundle was released today.
I don't know how they validate it but I've fired a GPMG quite a lot in my military youth and I can definitely put out a lot of aimed accurate long range bursts with one. 2-3 round rapid fire with a bipod and a 200 round belt can put a lot of well aimed accurate fire onto a target and it doesn't burn out the barrel too quickly at all.
the new MG fix seems to replicate this for me in the game.
I did a brief google earlier trying to see if there was anything obvious on validating simulations of different weapons. I didn't find anything, but I might try looking at the library databases when I'm at work tomorrow. Or perhaps it's all protectively marked in which case I'm not going to find anything....
Looking up the other game I was thinking of, it allowed crew-served light MGs to attack twice as many targets per turn as a rifle and a medium MG eight times as many as a rifle. It had a heavy MG attacking four times as many, but with the longest range. I have no idea if any of that's reasonable having never had cause to handle or fire any of them.
I guess I do have a little sympathy for BF in getting this stuff working nicely.
Looking up the other game I was thinking of, it allowed crew-served light MGs to attack twice as many targets per turn as a rifle and a medium MG eight times as many as a rifle. It had a heavy MG attacking four times as many, but with the longest range. I have no idea if any of that's reasonable having never had cause to handle or fire any of them.
I guess I do have a little sympathy for BF in getting this stuff working nicely.
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Maybe BF also did a I did a brief google earlier trying to see if there was anything obvious on validating simulations of different weapons? In which case, you have sympathy for the feeble.
Ah, if you want me to be cross with them, just mention the DRM again. Oh, I just did. Silly me.
NUTTERNAME
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I suppose it really doesn't matter. Or...
I seems, Fionn has now been signed on BattleFunk for intense psychotherapy that includes:
1. Designer 'Alternative Marriage and Gender Re-assignement'
2. Steve being a 'Ring Girl' for number '1' above
3. Elvis and Dorosh Hate/Love issues that have no reason for abaitement...
4. Dorosh and Fionn Love/Hate issues. They are sure and absolute.
5. Fionn and silly announcements like "OH! Look! There are Potato Masher HAND GRENADES in CMBO!!!!!" (everyone cringed as the Irishmen spoke lovingly about the potatoes.....
My own solemn and delicate thoughts about these silly and useless issues is that it doesn't matter at all. Products like these only matter when faced with the unyielding scathing and vicious eye of a fierce and unblinking 'product-predator'. All else is loss.