We've already had this conversation!Those don’t look like any official gullies but look more like paths.
which says that the woods exist IN the gully, and so the depiction is sorta implied (as it would if it were brush, thus causing the hindrance to apply). Also, if there were woods at level -1 IN the J8 gully, it would rise up to level 0, causing J7 to become a blind hex.A combination gully-woods hex (5Z8) is still a one level obstacle, and a combination gully-brush hex (12CC9) is still a 0 level LOS Hindrance; assuming the woods/brush is on both sides of the gully depiction, the same is true at level -1.
That seems to contradict B33.13: "Disregarding SMOKE and Hindrances, a unit IN a stream (including dry stream) -woods/brush/orchard hex is in Open Ground if the LOS INTO that hex emanates from within, or lies within the stream depiction (20.2) as it enters, that hex."20.41 DRY: If a stream is dry, it does not exist; rather, it is considered a gully for all purposes, which means there NO LOS J9 to J7 since Woods-Gully blocks LOS