Fortification and Row Houses.

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Does paying for fortification in a row house structure include all of building? Seems likely. But can the purchaser choose not to include all hexes in said fortification? At the start of our third session we fortified those sections of a factory which were outside the limits of range to enemy units. We thought that was correct and allowable. Tim
 

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I don't know what module and special purchase rule you are alluding to, but SSR usually indicate a number of Locations (not buildings) which can be fortified, as per B23.911
B23.911 The number of Fortified Building Locations is specified by SSR or DYO purchase.
 

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The campaign game that we are playing, of course. Not sure if anything is defined there, other than the cost for fortification of a building hex, which is 10 DSP points. I suppose I should ask the designer for clarification. I assume that all the hexes in a row house is fortified with a purchase. The question about the factory is debatable. There is a two hex range restriction concerning fortified buildings, but if only a portion of the building is within that range, can one still fortify the rest of the factory in this case. Tim
 

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I should have said building, not building hex.
 

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Are you sure that the special rule doesn't speak of Locations ?
 

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I know of no instance were a whole building is specified as fortified or where you can purchase a whole fortified building

Which CG or HASL are youplaying?
 

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I know of no instance were a whole building is specified as fortified or where you can purchase a whole fortified building

Which CG or HASL are youplaying?
Certain VotG scenarios may have them as fanatic strongpoints require to be entirely foryugued.
 

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Certain VotG scenarios may have them as fanatic strongpoints require to be entirely foryugued.
Is that indeed what he is playing? I do not recall that in VotG, but not having played that many VotG scenarios/CG, it may have slipped my increasingly porous memory.

Can you quote or point to a specific example Vinnie?
 

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Is that indeed what he is playing? I do not recall that in VotG, but not having played that many VotG scenarios/CG, it may have slipped my increasingly porous memory.

Can you quote or point to a specific example Vinnie?
Vinnie is saying that in VotG before designating a building as a fanatic stronghold, you must fortify the whole ground level using FPP [CG11]. FPP in votg fortify a building one location at a time. It is not an example of where a single purchase fortifies more than one building location, but rather of something that was not asked.

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My understanding is that a building is fortified by a level. From the ground level up. So one floor is ten DSP points. Three floors would be thirty DSP points. The size of the level does not apply. Tim
 

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Is that indeed what he is playing? I do not recall that in VotG, but not having played that many VotG scenarios/CG, it may have slipped my increasingly porous memory.

Can you quote or point to a specific example Vinnie?
CGIII~1 MISCELLANEOUS: Buildings F36, L38 and FF43 are Historical Strongpoints (CG11.1). Building FF43 contains a Cellar

As historical strongpoints they are fortified throughout all levels.
This and Berlin are the only ones I can think of.
 

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My understanding is that a building is fortified by a level. From the ground level up. So one floor is ten DSP points. Three floors would be thirty DSP points. The size of the level does not apply. Tim
Not my understanding. Fortified building LOCATIONS are specified by SSR or DYO purchase. Any one building HEX can contain fortified locations from the ground up by levels, but no more actual locations than specified/purchased. B23.911 and B23.912.
 

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My understanding is that a building is fortified by a level. From the ground level up. So one floor is ten DSP points. Three floors would be thirty DSP points. The size of the level does not apply. Tim
He looked into a structural engineering manual instead of the ASLRB :)
 

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The game is the one which I am writing an after action account of. Please correct me if our understanding is incorrect. My ego is limited. Vinnie, you have played this campaign game. Tim
 

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The game is the one which I am writing an after action account of. Please correct me if our understanding is incorrect. My ego is limited. Vinnie, you have played this campaign game. Tim
If it's one I've played then its not VotG.
Coukd be Oz bay, Pegasus Bridge, RB, Catch a Train, operation Turnscrew, Hells Bridgehead, KGP...
 

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CGIII~1 MISCELLANEOUS: Buildings F36, L38 and FF43 are Historical Strongpoints (CG11.1). Building FF43 contains a Cellar

As historical strongpoints they are fortified throughout all levels.
This and Berlin are the only ones I can think of.
That does sound familiar now.....still, Fortified building locations are specified/purchased/allocated by individual location and not by the building.
 

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The game is the one which I am writing an after action account of. Please correct me if our understanding is incorrect. My ego is limited. Vinnie, you have played this campaign game. Tim

What is the name of it ?

Why so cryptic?

Edit - Just looked in the AAR board. Is it Ozerekya Breakout . Number Three?





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