Sorry, no time frame.Brian Youse - Aug 3, 2008 7:57 am (#60728 Total: 60807)
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Also, what about the FKaC?
DB is next, then FKAC reprint, we'll probably end up doing them at the same time if the countersheets work out.
No. That has never been the case. It has always been DB first, then FKaC. Pay attention. Your sources are just wrong.I understood FKAC was being reprinted this year, had heard would be printed before the Doomed Batallions Reprint. Anybody ideas when this is likely to happen?
Stuart
Here is more from Brian on Consimworld. I would guess the interesting part is the place where he says "Why is it now so important for everything to be available?":I understood FKAC was being reprinted this year, had heard would be printed before the Doomed Batallions Reprint. Anybody ideas when this is likely to happen?
Stuart
Brian Youse from ConSimWorld 8-4-2008 said:I agree with this on Beyond Valor, its absence is an issue. Of course it has been unavailable for what, a week or two? Isn't it a little early to panic?
It won't be unavailable for long, nor is it merely calling the printer and saying knock off another few k of a module with 14 countersheets (nearly twice a large countersheet run) and 10 maps - the thing costs a fortune _our cost_, so situations have to be set up where we can minimize our costs. Otherwise the alternative would be to put it on preorder - how long do you think it would take for a game that is what, 23 years old?, to hit?
WRT the rest of the "core system" I lose considerably less sleep. Why is it now so important for everything to be available? I get the occasional email "I won't learn ASL because its not all available". Talk about instant-gratification. Perhaps this is the side-effect of the video game era. When I started learning ASL I got Beyond Valor and had to wait 6 weeks for the rulebook to arrive!!! Then Paratrooper came out. A year later Yanks. Etc.
Why doesn't this model work now? Because it -used- to exist? That's fine, let's all storm the gates at Decision Games and demand reprints of every SPI game they license.
But beyond the rulebook (which, FYI, is about to go temporarily out of print while we're waiting for new binders) and Beyond Valor I have to admit i'm more concerned about keeping ASLSK1-3 in print.
:clap: :clap: :clap:Here is more from Brian on Consimworld. I would guess the interesting part is the place where he says "Why is it now so important for everything to be available?":
I was actually told this when ringing the MMP office, was obviously misinformed.No. That has never been the case. It has always been DB first, then FKaC. Pay attention. Your sources are just wrong.
I was actually told this when ringing the MMP office, was obviously misinformed.
As too expecting a British module to be available, having purchased AP4 a third of the scenarios aren't available to me as I am unable to obtain a British module without paying extortionate amounts on ebay. I know I can still get Chaper H for the British direct from MMP and use other peoples counters when playing FTF or use VASL but would prefer to have the whole module.
You're scareing me, recommending an even rarer module to replace the replacement module so someone can have the British OOB, what is wrong with you?In the meantime British counters can be found in:
SK2
SK3
Pegasus Bridge
A Bridge Too Far (good luck here)
Operation Veritable
WOA
With the (obvious) exception of WOA, none will give you a complete Brit OB, but should be enough in most cases to get you up and running. I would not discount the community's largess, either. You will never know if you don't ask.
I, for years, could not play all those scenarios utilising the AoO boards: I managed, and so will you. It can be frustrating, sure, but you'll get there, eventually.
I thought this was the most interesting thing Youse said!Here is more from Brian on Consimworld. I would guess the interesting part is the place where he says "Why is it now so important for everything to be available?":
MMP may be making more money from the Starter kits, and ASL has just become an Albatross, if that is the case, can't blame them and I wish them the best.I thought this was the most interesting thing Youse said!
"...and Beyond Valor I have to admit i'm more concerned about keeping ASLSK1-3 in print."
Rather than making mad money from Starter Kits, I bet it is more of a "new product versus old product" thing.MMP may be making more money from the Starter kits, and ASL has just become an Albatross, if that is the case, can't blame them and I wish them the best.
You're scareing me, recommending an even rarer module to replace the replacement module so someone can have the British OOB, what is wrong with you?
Yes very true, just so long as everyone realizes that, and buys modules on the first or second print run since there might not be a 3rd or 4th depending on how much of the "new" stuff" is selling and keeping the printer busy. And i agree its a smart business move, if its working go with it. not to mention hopefully expanding the player base.MMP may be making more money from the Starter kits, and ASL has just become an Albatross, if that is the case, can't blame them and I wish them the best.
Or, as apparently is the norm above the border, should I cry in my oatmeal that all the easy options are gone, while ignoring several doable possibilities? (e.g. SKs 2&3, OpV: out of stock yes, but merely needs units built). The fact remains that the Brit OB can be had, perhaps to a lesser degree than that of FKaC, but still be had none the less.
One can put their heads to work on resolving the issue or they can use their mouths only and complain about it. Individual choice... [/B}
These could be words of wisdom.Yes very true, just so long as everyone realizes that, and buys modules on the first or second print run since there might not be a 3rd or 4th depending on how much of the "new" stuff" is selling and keeping the printer busy. And i agree its a smart business move, if its working go with it. not to mention hopefully expanding the player base.
So get your "Core" modules while they are hot!
Or should we start calling the Starter Kits the "CORE" module since they do have priority now, and i read recently in this forum that HASL or Historical study modules arent considered "Core" so we better buy those "bonus material" modules to while we can get them.
Naaa...I would say it is a cost/effort thing. SK's are less cost and effort to produce than a module like BV or FKaC. Each SK is totally self-contained which makes them a much easier and broader sell. Which is why we are headed toward SK-AP's and SK-HASL's.Rather than making mad money from Starter Kits, I bet it is more of a "new product versus old product" thing.
I think some people are taking out of context what Brian said. Here is his full quote:Yes very true, just so long as everyone realizes that, and buys modules on the first or second print run since there might not be a 3rd or 4th depending on how much of the "new" stuff" is selling and keeping the printer busy. And i agree its a smart business move, if its working go with it. not to mention hopefully expanding the player base.
So get your "Core" modules while they are hot!
Or should we start calling the Starter Kits the "CORE" module since they do have priority now, and i read recently in this forum that HASL or Historical study modules arent considered "Core" so we better buy those "bonus material" modules to while we can get them.
I would have to agree with you, it is how I took it as wellII take this to mean:
Most important - The Rulebook and Beyond Valor
2nd most important - The Starter Kits
Third in importantance - The rest of the core modules