Fire Lane Residual Fire power and concealed units

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Two questions:

1. Is the amount of residual firepower left by a Fire lane halved if the attack that initiates it is vs a concealed unit? I think maybe No.

2. If a concealed unit enters fire lane residual is the attack halved? I think maybe Yes.

Confirmation or otherwise would be appreciated.
 

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1. I think no as well...A9.22 para 2 lines 7-9. It is a categorical statement on its value [EXC when PBF].
2. I think no, the FP value of the lane is already in place. If a concealed unit entered say a 4 FP regular reside. it is not lower to 2. FL FP is just a special form of residual FP that happens to exists in a variety of hexes, but is otherwise treated the same [EXC: cancellation].
 

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Two questions:

1. Is the amount of residual firepower left by a Fire lane halved if the attack that initiates it is vs a concealed unit? I think maybe No.

2. If a concealed unit enters fire lane residual is the attack halved? I think maybe Yes.

Confirmation or otherwise would be appreciated.
No and no. Firelane FP is always based on the FP of the MG (and PBR) [A9.22]. Once placed residual FP, including a firelane, is never reduced for any reason, including concealment [A8.224]

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Thanks to both for quick replies - A8.224 is pretty definitive on the matter.
 

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Because of this, if you have a concealed unit and a non-concealed unit to move where you expect to have residual placed, it's better (often) to move the concealed unit first. If the attack places regular residual, the residual placed for the unconcealed unit is reduced by half and the attack vs the concealed unit is no worse than the residual would have been. If the attack places a firelane, the attack by the halved FP is no worse than the firelane, and the firelane is less of an attack against the unconcealed unit than the original MG FP.

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In the scenario I am playing it is Extreme winter with deep snow and falling snow and I have several concealed Russian squads winter camo and a road to cross which is covered by a German HMG. I was hoping the camo would help with assault moves onto the road, but seems no such luck, I will have to think again.
 

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In the scenario I am playing it is Extreme winter with deep snow and falling snow and I have several concealed Russian squads winter camo and a road to cross which is covered by a German HMG. I was hoping the camo would help with assault moves onto the road, but seems no such luck, I will have to think again.
Extreme winter? Assault move the first unit, let him place the firelane. Move the second unit normally into the firelane and if both the MG and the unit fail to break move up the firelane until one or the other does. B# is reduced by two. Then move everyone else normally. If you have an AFV drive that up the firelane CE instead.

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If they're Axis Minor MGs in most cases, it's almost a no brainer.
Unfortunately they are not. I am inclined to think assault moves one at a time into the firelane is my best option. I only have 5 units to cross the road and its going to be 4-1 for an assault move into open ground and 4-2 for non assault move. If I survive I keep concealment and can advance to the other side of the road. I still have the chance with each unit of malfing the MG.
 
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