ESB and Smoke Dispenser Attempt

[buser333]

If a tracked vehicle without any MP remaining wishes to attempt a sM, must the ESB roll be made before this attempt, or only if the sM roll succeeds?
If the former, does any ESB failure still apply if the sM is unsuccessful?

 

[jrv]

If a tracked vehicle without any MP remaining wishes to attempt a sM, must the ESB roll be made before this attempt, or only if the sM roll succeeds?
If the former, does any ESB failure still apply if the sM is unsuccessful?

It would have to make the ESB DR first, I would think. If it made the sD DR first but then failed the ESB it would not have the MP to make the sD attempt which it has already made.

JR

 

[Larry]

If it fails the sD roll, it never tries to expend the MP and therefore no need for an ESB roll.

Probably requires a PS.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I am pretty sure one needs to have an MP available in order to possibly expend it on a sD attempt. I.e., ESB DR first to see if one has the MP, I can't see one rolling the ESB retroactively.

 

[jrv]

I can't see how you would proceed if you rolled the sD successfully and placed the smoke, then failed the ESB. The smoke is retracted? The smoke is left anyway? That was the reasoning behind my answer: you need even more rules if the sD is attempted first.

JR

 

[von Marwitz]

I am pretty sure one needs to have an MP available in order to possibly expend it on a sD attempt. I.e., ESB DR first to see if one has the MP, I can't see one rolling the ESB retroactively.

My take as well.

von Marwitz