Does Ambush drm for Pinned apply to OT vehicles?

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An OT vehicle is fired upon inflicting a NMC on the crew which they pass by rolling equal to their morale, so they are Pinned. Are the penalties in A7.82 (+2 to TH, halving of MG/IFE/Canister/FT, no ROF) the only penalties? Or would the +1 Ambush drm also apply? I'm confused by this last sentence of A7.82 "A vehicle itself can never be pinned, nor can its Inherent crew; however, leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply."
 

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A7.82 -- A vehicle itself can never be pinned, nor can its Inherent crew; however, leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply.
 

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A7.82 -- A vehicle itself can never be pinned, nor can its Inherent crew; however, leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply.
Yes, that's the rule I quoted. So you're saying that other effects of a Pin result, such as the +1 drm on Ambush, does not apply to a vehicle?
 

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Yes, that's the rule I quoted. So you're saying that other effects of a Pin result, such as the +1 drm on Ambush, does not apply to a vehicle?
A7.82 -- A vehicle itself can never be pinned, nor can its Inherent crew; however, leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply.

I'd say all penalties related to Pin status apply.

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Hmmm,....

Note that... "leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply". does not apply to ambush.

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above penalties in A7.82 are:
  • Case D (pinned firer)
  • halving of all MG/IFE/FT/Cannister FP
  • prohibits Intensive Fire
  • no ROF.
"A vehicle may never be pinned, nor can its inherent crew,..." so I would submit there is no +1 drm to Ambush.
 
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Hmmm,....

Note that... "leave the Pin counter on the vehicle to show that the above penalties apply". does not apply to ambush.

The
above penalties in A7.82 are:


  • Case D (pinned firer)
  • halving of all MG/IFE/FT/Cannister FP
  • prohibits Intensive Fire
  • no ROF.
"A vehicle may never be pinned, nor can its inherent crew,..." so I would submit there is no +1 drm to Ambush.
Nice catch. During play one can easilly gloss over such stuff as our brains are configured to automatically include all items normally associated with a "Pin" but make note of the general difference for a vehicle Pin result. Minor details like this are often overlooked especially so because of its non-inclusion.?
 
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