Demo charge placement

[ThePrimeMover]

Wrong hex apparently. Yep, looked at the adjacent hexes and it says rules and errata

Ok - I'm going HIP

 

[Vinnie]

First up this is the wrong folder!
You can assault move if it is less than your full movement. 2 into some and place DC into building for 4 means a squad cannot do this while assault moving. A leader or hero could.
The says need to survive all fire first as it moves in. Then it needs to survive all fire as it placed the DC. This will include any residual placed when it moves in. If the residents was already there then you will already have been attacked.

 

[Vinnie]

Nah, just get him to fire elsewhere or use the threat of the DC to allow units to move up unmolested.

 

[Jazz]

Bailiff! Wack his pepee! Moving to the rules forum.

 

[MatrimSaric]

You take resid as well? Is that correct. In a current game someone cxd a squad plus dc next to a squad plus mmg with a neg 2 leader. They survived! the 16 down 4, generating 6-8 resid then tried to set the dc but broke to the first final fire shot. So should they take two resid shots as well?

 

[Vinnie]

If you spend mf in a hex with redid then you get hit once.
If the first fire shot was made as they entered, leaving 6 redid, then when they spend mf tomplsce the DC they get hit by it.
If it was there when they entered it would have hit them at that time so would not hit again for the DC placement t mf.

 

[Eagle4ty]

The 1st attack vs the placement of the DC should have been the RFP not the subsequent fire or any other fire from another FG. There may not have been a need for any S1F/SFF (thus risking the malfunction of the MG had it not had ROF) if the placing unit had been Pinned or broken..

 

[jrv]

You take resid as well? Is that correct. In a current game someone cxd a squad plus dc next to a squad plus mmg with a neg 2 leader. They survived! the 16 down 4, generating 6-8 resid then tried to set the dc but broke to the first final fire shot. So should they take two resid shots as well?

If a unit spends any MF/MP in a location with a residual FP counter, it is attacked by that residual unless it has already been attacked by it. I am not sure why you say, "two resid shots." The steps should be,

1. ATTACKER unit moves adjacent
2. DEFENDER fires on MF that expenditure, placing residual
3. The residual does *not* attack on the MF expenditure that caused it
4. ATTACKER unit places DC; this is a second, separate MF expenditure.
5. Since the residual has not attacked the unit before, it attacks on this MF expenditure. If the ATTACKER unit survives, the DC is placed. The ATTACKER unit is attacked only once even if it spent more than one MF placing the DC.
6. If the ATTACKER unit attempted a third MF expenditure in the location with the residual (e.g. place SMOKE grenade), it would *not* be attacked a second time by the residual FP (except if it became more vulnerable, e.g. it left a foxhole or recovered a FT).

If the residual had attacked on the MF expenditure when the unit entered the location (at step two), it would not attack again on the MF expenditure to place the DC unless the unit was somehow becoming more vulnerable.

JR

 

[Eagle4ty]

The only reason I could think of that would place two 'zids in a loc. is the placement of a Fire-Lane and the RFP placed by the IFP of the MMC. However, in this instance (assuming the MMC was firing the MG), it would be prevented from firing again anyway barring an FPF situation, of which this was not by description. As jrv and I have said, the RFP would attack 1st whether it was a single or multiple 'zid.

 

[MatrimSaric]

Thanks for the explanation all.