jrv
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A weapon with multiple TK DRs (e.g. the MA on a Wirbelwind) fires for Deliberate Immobilization [C5.7]. Does it get only one shot to hit the hull?
JR
JR
You're right. Multiple Hits can switch between turret and hull. Multiple TK don't. So I guess the question was about multiple hit weapons, not multiple TK weapons.If the note on the gun/vehicle doesn't specify an alternate way to determine hit locations, all normal TK DRs use the same hit location - so since Deliberate Immobilization only cares about a hull hit, there should not be additional rolls.
It would be different with Multiple Hits, but then, Multiple Hits occur on Doubles, which (normally) are Hull Hits; and the exception is Improbable Hits, which are explicitly pro
Philippe and you are kind of incorrect, as the first TK DR also serves as the TH location (e.g. target location hit) for the second TK DR. Multiple hits do NOT necessarily hit the same location (hull or turret/upper structure) of the target vehicle (C3.8 ...The first To Kill DR of a Multiple Hit vs a vehicle is also used to determine the location of the second hit as per 3.9.)You're right. Multiple Hits can switch between turret and hull. Multiple TK don't. So I guess the question was about multiple hit weapons, not multiple TK weapons.
JR
Philippe is correct. A weapon with multiple TK DRs is not eligible for multiple hits [C3.8]. I was thinking that multiple TK weapons work the same as multiple hit weapons, but that is wrong. In the case of a Wirbelwind all four TK DRs are rolled against the same vehicle aspect. Only a weapon that is eligible for multiple hits can switch between aspects.Philippe and you are kind of incorrect, as the first TK DR also serves as the TH location (e.g. target location hit) for the second TK DR. Multiple hits do NOT necessarily hit the same location (hull or turret/upper structure) of the target vehicle (C3.8 ...The first To Kill DR of a Multiple Hit vs a vehicle is also used to determine the location of the second hit as per 3.9.)
Ah yes, see the difference now. The MAVN for the FlaKPz IV/20 denotes multiple TK DRs like the U.S. M16 but not Multiple Hits (C3.8), unlike the U.S. M4 with vehicle note R that references that rule.Philippe is correct. A weapon with multiple TK DRs is not eligible for multiple hits [C3.8]. I was thinking that multiple TK weapons work the same as multiple hit weapons, but that is wrong. In the case of a Wirbelwind all four TK DRs are rolled against the same vehicle aspect. Only a weapon that is eligible for multiple hits can switch between aspects.
JR