Simon62
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Hi,
we are playing RB day 1 go 2 and using DC's/fortified buildings for the first time - have read the rules numerous times and a bit confused about Set DC's not sure if I have understood it correctly confirmation or correction of the example below would be appreciated:
Situation 1: a unit with a DC is in a wooden building hex in an adjacent hex is a enemy unit in a fortified building, the unit with the DC cannot enter the fortified building location unless the enemy unit is pinned or broken or there is a breach but can enter the location for purposes of DC placement,
a) I can throw a DC into the fortified building location and its blast will effect the fortified building and my location with Defensive fire being taken in the wooden building hex not the hex I throw into. I cannot use this to breach as I have thrown the demo charge and not placed it so it just attacks the unit in the fortified building and my location with additional positive modifiers for inaccuracy of throwing.
b) I can place the DC in the fortified building location and again all defensive fire is taken in the wooden building hex using it's +2 modifier even though to place I would have had to enter the fortified building hex effectively open ground??? I can have this placed DC to attack the fortified building or undertake a breach.
c) If placed and attacking the fortified building then it explodes full firepower with +4 mod.
d) If placed and set to breach the fortified building is breached with a NMC or better using full firepower and the unit in the fortified building is attacked as area fire with a +4 mod.
Situation 2: as situation 1 but a AFV is in motion bypass in the fortified building hex.
a) due the vehicle the unit can place the DC without any fear of defensive fire as the vehicle prevents the unit in the fortified building firing outside the hex and all DF against a DC placing unit is directed at the hex the placing unit is in not the hex it places the DC in. Is this correct the unit has to enter the hex with the fortified building to place and thus surly is in the same hex and should be subject to DF.
b) Would the vehicle be attacked collaterally or directly when the DC explodes?
I am struggling with the concept that the unit can place a DC whilst still retaining all defensive fire benefits from an adjacent hex and cannot fire at all against the placing unit if a vehicle is in it's hex - have I misunderstood this??
As always and insight and thoughts would be welcome
Regards
Simon
we are playing RB day 1 go 2 and using DC's/fortified buildings for the first time - have read the rules numerous times and a bit confused about Set DC's not sure if I have understood it correctly confirmation or correction of the example below would be appreciated:
Situation 1: a unit with a DC is in a wooden building hex in an adjacent hex is a enemy unit in a fortified building, the unit with the DC cannot enter the fortified building location unless the enemy unit is pinned or broken or there is a breach but can enter the location for purposes of DC placement,
a) I can throw a DC into the fortified building location and its blast will effect the fortified building and my location with Defensive fire being taken in the wooden building hex not the hex I throw into. I cannot use this to breach as I have thrown the demo charge and not placed it so it just attacks the unit in the fortified building and my location with additional positive modifiers for inaccuracy of throwing.
b) I can place the DC in the fortified building location and again all defensive fire is taken in the wooden building hex using it's +2 modifier even though to place I would have had to enter the fortified building hex effectively open ground??? I can have this placed DC to attack the fortified building or undertake a breach.
c) If placed and attacking the fortified building then it explodes full firepower with +4 mod.
d) If placed and set to breach the fortified building is breached with a NMC or better using full firepower and the unit in the fortified building is attacked as area fire with a +4 mod.
Situation 2: as situation 1 but a AFV is in motion bypass in the fortified building hex.
a) due the vehicle the unit can place the DC without any fear of defensive fire as the vehicle prevents the unit in the fortified building firing outside the hex and all DF against a DC placing unit is directed at the hex the placing unit is in not the hex it places the DC in. Is this correct the unit has to enter the hex with the fortified building to place and thus surly is in the same hex and should be subject to DF.
b) Would the vehicle be attacked collaterally or directly when the DC explodes?
I am struggling with the concept that the unit can place a DC whilst still retaining all defensive fire benefits from an adjacent hex and cannot fire at all against the placing unit if a vehicle is in it's hex - have I misunderstood this??
As always and insight and thoughts would be welcome
Regards
Simon