Da Paul Challenge

[jrv]

http://dieselfutures.tumblr.com/post/153556002898/hornsby-chain-track-tractor

JR

 

[jrv]

Partial credit not awarded:



JR

 

[Paul M. Weir]

Late production SdKfz 250 with a 5cm PaK 38. Not a standard vehicle, small numbers produced as leichte Schützenpanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.250 – Sfl 5cm PaK38 L/60. Vehicle photographed is at the Belgrade Military Museum. A similar SP PaK 38 was done on the unarmoured SdKfz 10. The SdKfz 10 PaK 38 had light armour added to the front like ASL's SdKfz 10/5. The 10 and 250 used the same chassis.

 

[jrv]

In service in Yugoslavia until the 1960's.

JR

 

[jrv]

No, that is not on Guam.

JR

 

[Mr Incredible]

It's related to these guys...........

 

[Paul M. Weir]

No need to bring the Abbawehr into this, I'll tell you everything, Pleeeease!!!

Chassis is obviously based on the Czech LT vz. 38 aka TNH aka Pz 38(t). So it's either Czech or licensed Swedish version.

So Pansarartillerivagn m/43 a prototype later called Stormartillerivagn m/43 (Sav m/43). Originally armed with the Bofors 75mm m/02 the production vehicles were eventually rearmed with the 105mm m/44 gun.

The Swedes ordered the LT vz. 38 but the Germans grabbed them as the Pz 38(t) Ausf S. The Swedes finagled a license to build them as the Stridsvagn m/41. The last 36 built as the Sav m/43. Eventually the remaining Strv m/41 were rebuilt as Pbv 301 APCs.

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/sweden/stormartillerivagn-m43-105mm-spg.php

 

[jrv]

All ashore that's going ashore:



JR

 

[Paul M. Weir]

That one is quite annoying. It's layout is closer to the LVT-3 or LVT-4 yet is neither.

Found the bugger: a British Neptune, based upon the LVT-4.

 

[jrv]

Accelerating vehicles to near-light-speed has some surprising dilation effects:

JR

 

[Justiciar]

MkI Nichtboggenzeewagon

 

[Paul M. Weir]

http://www.dws-xip.pl/encyklopedia/amfibiahexonaut-uk/

I get the impression of a Terrapin only worse. One engine drove the wheels for one side, the other engine the other side's, using different engine speeds, clutch and brakes to steer. Basically using a track steering system on a wheeled vehicle! That did not work too well for the T-70 and SU-76 which were both redesigned to use a more traditional transmission as the T-70M and SU-76M.

 

[jrv]

While he's looking the other way, we'll just nip out the back...

JR

 

[Yuri0352]

While he's looking the other way, we'll just nip out the back...

JR

British Medium MkII command tank.
This particular tank is prominently featured upon the cover of 'Death By Design' by Peter Beale. The photo caption indicates that this vehicle was nicknamed 'Boxcar'.

The shape of the superstructure and the side hatch reminds me of the dumpster outside our barracks on Camp Pendleton.

 

[kcole4001]

Just think if these vehicles had been first code named after mobile trash receptacles rather than water carriers..........that last one does look like a tracked dumpster.

 

[Justiciar]

Just think if these vehicles had been first code named after mobile trash receptacles rather than water carriers..........that last one does look like a tracked dumpster.

Yes, but in English-speak it would been known as the "Tip." Dumpster is not an English term of WWII-era and even not a common one when I lived across the pond for the late 80s and early 90s. Likely still holds true now. But then to retro the etymology a bit further in 1914-1918 there were no mobile "tips" about...so we are likely??? back to the "tank" again.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Yes, but in English-speak it would been known as the "Tip." Dumpster is not an English term of WWII-era and even not a common one when I lived across the pond for the late 80s and early 90s. Likely still holds true now. But then to retro the etymology a bit further in 1914-1918 there were no mobile "tips" about...so we are likely??? back to the "tank" again.

A lady asked me to review her father's wartime documents once, and I had to think long and hard as to what a "Tipper Platoon" was. And he was in the Canadian Army, not UK, though we did tend to British English in those days much more than American. Sad part was he had told her he was an Army Commando, not thinking she'd ever be able to get his records. I had the fun task of telling her he actually drove a dump truck during the war.

 

[Justiciar]

Interesting tale...maybe he took the rubbish out for a commando unit? Maybe his record would show where his unit was...cross check that with command bases...and she might get a little wrye smile out of that.

[Follow up by what I meant in my post by 'mobile tip'.. the receptacles at job sites and the like that get picked up by specialist vehicle capable of loading the 'large bin'. Not tip truck / dump trucks.]

 

[Paul M. Weir]

During my childhood those vehicles were simply known as "rubbish trucks" and hauled the trash to the "rubbish dump" or simply to the "dump". A "dump" or "tip"/"tipper" truck might not cover just a rubbish vehicle but could sometimes also cover any truck that tipped to drop its load like gravel. While "dumpster" has not really caught on here as a term, "garbage" which used to be mainly heard/read in US sourced media back then has become as common as "rubbish" now.

EDIT: Though most this side of the pond know what a "dumpster" is and are also familiar with the term "dumpster fire" as a metaphor, we call them "rubbish skips" or simply "skips".

 

[wsrt]

I think the "mobile tip" is what I know as a "skip". (See http://www.lothianskiphire.com/ for pictures, etc. that's my local skip hire firm).