Cross of Iron Overlays

[RandyT0001]

With Cross of Iron AH introduced terrain substitution into the SL system, no hills, hills are woods, etc. Some players have a difficult time visualize these substitutions. I went through the Cross of Iron scenarios that I could find and made overlays for the terrain substitutions except for board 2. Board 2 hills are large and typically converted to flat (non hill) terrain. There are four sheets of terrain overlays. Each sheet should print out at the right size if you set your color printer to have 1/4 inch margins on all four sides and print in landscape format. Hopefully I will have them posted to the resource page by Sunday evening. Images attached.

 

[Gunner Scott]

Did'nt GI Anvil of Victory fix that problem?

 

[RandyT0001]

Did'nt GI Anvil of Victory fix that problem?

GI had different overlays. AH never created overlays for these terrain substitutions.

 

[bprobst]

And the relevance to Advanced Squad Leader is ...? Please pay attention to where you're posting.

 

[RandyT0001]

And the relevance to Advanced Squad Leader is ...? Please pay attention to where you're posting.

Capture of Balta - Journal 2
Blocking Action at Lipki - ASL Annual ‘92
Slamming of the Door - Beyond Valor 3d
Bald Hill - Turning the Tide
Beachhead At Ozereyka Bay - ASL Annual ‘91
The Agony of Doom - Beyond Valor 3d

There are more. They might have changed the scenarios to exclude terrain substitutions. If you don't want the overlays, don't download them. It's not like you are paying for them.

 

[Delirium]

Thanks, Randy, the Balta overlays are much appreciated as it's a favourite ASL conversion scenario of mine.

 

[RandyT0001]

Thanks, Randy, the Balta overlays are much appreciated as it's a favourite ASL conversion scenario of mine.

You might want to download the "revised version" 'cuz it has a few extra bonus wood overlays.

 

[rwpikul]

And the relevance to Advanced Squad Leader is ...? Please pay attention to where you're posting.

Well, they're still fully functional overlays for boards that are used in ASL. Plus, not only have at least some of the scenarios been converted, there is nothing stopping people from converting the rest, (be that for potential publication or just because they want to try it).

 

[Nineteen Kilo]

With Cross of Iron AH introduced terrain substitution into the SL system, no hills, hills are woods, etc. Some players have a difficult time visualize these substitutions. I went through the Cross of Iron scenarios that I could find and made overlays for the terrain substitutions except for board 2. Board 2 hills are large and typically converted to flat (non hill) terrain. There are four sheets of terrain overlays. Each sheet should print out at the right size if you set your color printer to have 1/4 inch margins on all four sides and print in landscape format. Hopefully I will have them posted to the resource page by Sunday evening. Images attached.

Randy what were the overlays that came out in Rivers to the Reich? Those might be these same overlays.

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[RandyT0001]

Randy what were the overlays that came out in Rivers to the Reich? Those might be these same overlays.

Nope. They never made any overlays for the COI scenarios. From MMP website: "Two sheets of overlays, replicating those that originally appeared in the Squad Leader module GI: Anvil Of Victory, are also included."

 

[bprobst]

There are more.

There aren't any. The updated scenarios either use actual ASL overlays, use different boards, or don't change the terrain significantly in ways that require overlay usage at all. Did you not do any ASL research at all? Or did you just look at a bunch of CoI scenarios and think how you could update them, without bothering to check to see if it had already been done? Wasted effort and inappropriate for this discussion board, which is about ASL, not CoI.

 

[RandyT0001]

There aren't any. The updated scenarios either use actual ASL overlays, use different boards, or don't change the terrain significantly in ways that require overlay usage at all. Did you not do any ASL research at all?

Nope. Did not feel like digging through all 1000 or so scenario cards I possess to check.

Or did you just look at a bunch of CoI scenarios and think how you could update them, without bothering to check to see if it had already been done?

Yep. Been poking around on the various SL and ASL websites, etc. and one person made a request for overlays for Capture of Balta on an ASL website and I thought I could add to the content of SL and ASL. You've been the only one that doesn't like it so yours is obviously a singular viewpoint.

Wasted effort and inappropriate for this discussion board, which is about ASL, not CoI.

IMO the only wasted effort involved is responding to your post. I spent time creating new overlays for anybody to use, SL or ASL, adding to the content of both. You spend your time reading posts and trying to censure content to your narrow vision of what SL and ASL are. I think fans of both games will appreciate my 'wasted effort' more than yours.

 

[Paul M. Weir]

There aren't any. The updated scenarios either use actual ASL overlays, use different boards, or don't change the terrain significantly in ways that require overlay usage at all. Did you not do any ASL research at all? Or did you just look at a bunch of CoI scenarios and think how you could update them, without bothering to check to see if it had already been done? Wasted effort and inappropriate for this discussion board, which is about ASL, not CoI.

Utterly uncalled for!

Someone offers something that though rooted in SL can still be used in ASL, as is, any without rules conflict. While you might have no interest in such an item, others may. And it's FREE, it won't cost you your house, children or pets. We do not dismiss Board 1 because it originated in SL, it's 100% compatible with ASL, though Board 1's past overuse may be a problem for some.

So someone offers a free item to the community and you bitch!!!!!

 

[Eagle4ty]

There aren't any. The updated scenarios either use actual ASL overlays, use different boards, or don't change the terrain significantly in ways that require overlay usage at all. Did you not do any ASL research at all? Or did you just look at a bunch of CoI scenarios and think how you could update them, without bothering to check to see if it had already been done? Wasted effort and inappropriate for this discussion board, which is about ASL, not CoI.

If ya don't like 'em, don't use 'em. Problem solved.:nod:

 

[Robin Reeve]

Jim Stahler did a fine job adapting about all SL-COI-COD-GIAV scenarios to ASL.
I play those adaptations, without looking back at the obsolete ones.

 

[von Marwitz]

Jim Stahler did a fine job adapting about all SL-COI-COD-GIAV scenarios to ASL.
I play those adaptations, without looking back at the obsolete ones.

I welcome the initiative of creating the overlays.
At the same time, I'd probably take the same path as Swiftandsure

von Marwitz

 

[rwpikul]

Someone offers something that though rooted in SL can still be used in ASL, as is, any without rules conflict.

It looks like the only problem with these overlays is that they lack the positioning numbers. This isn't too much of an issue if being used in the original locations but the alignment numbers would make them more flexible.

 

[Paul M. Weir]

It looks like the only problem with these overlays is that they lack the positioning numbers. This isn't too much of an issue if being used in the original locations but the alignment numbers would make them more flexible.

A valid point, easily rectified by Randy. If you're into DYO like me they are still very useful without the numbers.

 

[RandyT0001]

Overlays with position numbers are in the resources, too big for posting in thread.

 

[Paul M. Weir]

Thank you!