BattleSchool
Elder Member
Still trying to organize my nifty new French OB, and thought I recalled a relatively recent thread that explained why certain vehicles are not provided in French Blue.
1. Consider the Carrier AC(b), which is only available in tan livery (as it was in the 1992 edition). (Or the Autocanon de 40 Contre-Avions(a) in US colours.) Given that we now have dedicated counters for the French French, and (AFAIK) the carrier below was only used by the French French, what's the rationale for it not being in French Blue? Doesn't the parenthetical national ID and MAVN F tell us what we need to know about these counters?
MAVN F If this counter is illustrated in the British or U.S. color in its Vehicle Note, it may be used in a Free French OB as per A25.54-.56. The following apply regardless of this counter's nationality color(s), except as stated otherwise:
3. While the Autocanon de 75 Conus(b) may be a special case, because it was used by Free French forces that fought as part of the British 8th Army, didn't most Free French forces fight as part of larger American or British formations? I which case, why weren't these vehicles (also) printed in French Blue? (If the Conus can only appear as part of a British OB, would it make more sense for me to store these counters elsewhere, e.g., with British AFV?)
4. Finally, what was the rationale for including five models of US halftracks in US livery? A cursory looks suggests that they all differ from similar halftracks in US and British service. So why not just print them in French Blue?
TIA
1. Consider the Carrier AC(b), which is only available in tan livery (as it was in the 1992 edition). (Or the Autocanon de 40 Contre-Avions(a) in US colours.) Given that we now have dedicated counters for the French French, and (AFAIK) the carrier below was only used by the French French, what's the rationale for it not being in French Blue? Doesn't the parenthetical national ID and MAVN F tell us what we need to know about these counters?
MAVN F If this counter is illustrated in the British or U.S. color in its Vehicle Note, it may be used in a Free French OB as per A25.54-.56. The following apply regardless of this counter's nationality color(s), except as stated otherwise:
- "(a)", "(b)" or "(f)" in the piece name stands for "American", "British" or "French" respectively, for ESB (D2.5), Hammada Immobilization (F3.31), Sand Bog (F7.31), etc. purposes.
- "(a)" or "(b)" also indicates that the MA uses black TH# (unless captured), as signified by "Black TH#" on the counter.
- "(a)" also indicates that this vehicle is treated as captured if crewed by other than Free French or U.S. [EXC: by other than Vichy French, for the French-color version of the AM Dodge(a)].
- "(b)" also indicates that this vehicle is treated as captured if crewed by other than Vichy French or British (including Free French, etc.; A25.4).
- "(f)" also indicates that the MA always uses red TH# if this vehicle is an AFV, that a MG scrounged from this vehicle (or its wreck) takes counter form as a British-color LMG(f) (with captured-use penalties unless being fired by Free/Vichy French; A25.54), and that this vehicle is treated as captured if crewed by other than Free/Vichy French (A25.56).
3. While the Autocanon de 75 Conus(b) may be a special case, because it was used by Free French forces that fought as part of the British 8th Army, didn't most Free French forces fight as part of larger American or British formations? I which case, why weren't these vehicles (also) printed in French Blue? (If the Conus can only appear as part of a British OB, would it make more sense for me to store these counters elsewhere, e.g., with British AFV?)
4. Finally, what was the rationale for including five models of US halftracks in US livery? A cursory looks suggests that they all differ from similar halftracks in US and British service. So why not just print them in French Blue?
TIA