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And India, around Imphal.
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the point.. ahh duh... come on man...the one you were making lol.I have no idea what point you were trying to make. Rice paddies were not a terrain feature in Guadalcanal so naturally a Guadalcanal HASL would not have them.
Rice paddies were a feature in many places where a lot of combat took place, including China, Burma, Luzon, Malaya, [Korea], and elsewhere.
^ don't forget Italy as well
the point.. ahh duh... come on man...the one you were making lol.
HASL maps man and rice paddies upon them and how they are presented.
Sure there are areas all through that part of the world where rice paddies are to be found. Yet how many were where HASL actions, ie major battles, took place. I suppose if there was a point to masturbating all over the monitor it was that. Only one so far for ww2 took place where rice paddies were to be found, Bataan and they had them on the maps, and another if one counts the war in Korea.
Very few of what has been published had them, and if one looks forward to what is known or suspected to be in the works for future HASL only one might have them depending on which aspect of the battle it is focused on. The bitterly opposed landing or the fighting in the interior. That would be Saipan as the landing zone for the 4th Marine Division and its axis of advance into the interior of Saipan went right through the only area of the island that was suitable and used for wet rice production.
It's possible the rice paddy rules could be applicable to, say, the swamp areas around Anzio, particularly where the FSSF operated.^ don't forget Italy as well
And a very nice map indeed.The St-Louis ASL group's HASL set in Burma has rice paddies on the historical map.
I am sitting down with this now and have a similar feeling... I was going to play the grain depictions as paddy fields, assuming that both were included for artistic reasons (but there is still a nagging doubt in my mind).no mention is made in the Smith's Ridge rules of the grain NOT being treated as rice paddies per W.3.
First sentence of Smith Ridge Special Rules:PTO isn't in effect. It's grain.
Map visuals somehow override what's written in the rules?? C'mon.Interesting POVs. Why wouldn't you take the map at its word and assume that grain is grain? These AREN'T Euro-style geoboards being repurposed to represent asian encounters.
Smith's Ridge Special Rules (SRSR haha) are very clear that chapter W rules apply UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE. There is no note in the SRSR that grain IS NOT to be treated as rice paddies, and remains grain.First sentence of Smith Ridge Special Rules:
"Unless noted otherwise, Chapter W rules apply."
Also, SmR3 KW Terrain & KW Miscellaneous:
"Except as noted otherwise below, KW Terrain & KW Miscellaneous (W.3-.4) are in effect."
Flipping to Chapter W:
"All grain and rice paddies are Paddy Fields."
Seems clear to me that grain is to be played as Paddy Fields and that the map depiction is for artistic effect (that's the way I'm playing it, but have the smallest nagging doubt).
nope. Not on the "very complete" Smith's Ridge Terrain charts. Are you looking at some other terrain chart, Lionel???? Or is there something wrong with my copy?A very complete terrain chart is provided in the module and it shows that 'grain ' is grain and is in season.
Lionel might be thinking the Seoul Terrain chart.nope. Not on the "very complete" Smith's Ridge Terrain charts. Are you looking at some other terrain chart, Lionel???? Or is there something wrong with my copy?
yes I think you're right, I found it there, maybe it should also be on the other chart.Lionel might be thinking the Seoul Terrain chart.
That's what I'm starting to think. Maybe an inadvertant result of breaking the single rulebook into two?yes I think you're right, I found it there, maybe it should also be on the other chart.