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The following CC takes place during a PB CG scenario

German 467wLMG, 467, 447 vs British 10-2/648wLMG and 9-2/338wPIAT

10-2/648wLMG attacks 467wLMG (rolls 1,4) = KIA

9-2/338wPIAT attacks 467 (rolls 1,4) = KIA

All German units attack 9-2/338wPIAT (rolls 1,1) = KIA

A 6+1 is generated by the German, but how is this new leader factored into the attacks? Which combat can they join to aid in the defence? Any?
 

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I believe it goes like this:

The 6+1 would be added to the German attack vs the 9-2+3-3-8wPIAT, and its +1 DRM would apply to the attack. A DR of 1,1 +1 is probably enough to kill the Brit units anyway.

The 6+1 would either defend with the 4-6-7wLMG or the other 4-6-7 (select randomly), since you use the MMC with the highest BPV to determine who created the leader. So one of the British attacks would be re-configured as if there were an 6+1 present as well.
 

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The following CC takes place during a PB CG scenario

German 467wLMG, 467, 447 vs British 10-2/648wLMG and 9-2/338wPIAT

10-2/648wLMG attacks 467wLMG (rolls 1,4) = KIA

9-2/338wPIAT attacks 467 (rolls 1,4) = KIA

All German units attack 9-2/338wPIAT (rolls 1,1) = KIA

A 6+1 is generated by the German, but how is this new leader factored into the attacks? Which combat can they join to aid in the defence? Any?
Due to the rolls, will it change any results? I cannot see it. Thanks
 

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The narrative accompanying this sequence of events is both tragic and hilarious. I suspect one of the Germans saw an opportunity to Seize The Day, but wound up Just Plain Dead.
 

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Note that it is important which Player Turn it is. If it is the British Player Turn the rolls should happen as listed, i.e. all the British rolls are made then the German. If it is the German Player Turn, the German player should have rolled first. That would eliminate the British and allow the Germans to infiltrate before the British units could make their attacks. I'm assuming there was no ambush.

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No matter which group the 6+1 german leader stacks with they are still dead, in each attack the roll of 1,4 by the british still kills the german defenders dead even with the 6+1 leader added in.
and a Klaus said the roll of 1,1 +1 for a 3 stills kills the brit 9-2 + 338 hs.
 

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I believe it goes like this:

The 6+1 would be added to the German attack vs the 9-2+3-3-8wPIAT, and its +1 DRM would apply to the attack. A DR of 1,1 +1 is probably enough to kill the Brit units anyway.

The 6+1 would either defend with the 4-6-7wLMG or the other 4-6-7 (select randomly), since you use the MMC with the highest BPV to determine who created the leader. So one of the British attacks would be re-configured as if there were an 6+1 present as well.
Thanks to all for your replies - we did a random selection to keep the game going. It was a reinforced melee, it had been going for a turn or two and was the British player turn.

Where is the rule for using the BPV please?
 

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A18.2
18.2 The quality of leader created is based on a dr on the Leader Creation Table plus any cumulative drm for nationality, unit type, and status (including the Morale Level of the unit at the time of the Original 2 DR). If more than one type of MMC made the CC attack which created the leader, the MMC with the highest BPV involved is used to determine any Leader Creation drm
 
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