bebakken said:
I'm going to try and walk through it.
Good, but as you've already seen from my last post, I still disagree
If an AFV enters your Location without OVR, you claim that you may make a normal DFF attack against it. I would assume that normal DFF includes all fire within (and up to the limits of) its present capabilities, using TPBF/ordnance/FT/Thrown-DC in the normal manner.
Yes, and even over the normal limits if the AFV declares an OVR, by using OVR Prevention,
But that is exactly what is defined as "Non-CC Reaction Fire" in D7.22! And D7.2 says that Non-CC Reaction Fire may only be used versus an OVR.
No, D7.2 defines what Non-CC Reaction Fire is and when it can be used. This does not preclude the use of normal DFF (at least I don't think so).
So, if you say, "this is normal DFF", it is allowed. But if you say, "this is Non-CC Reaction Fire", it is not allowed???
No, if no OVR is declared (or
before it is performed), any DFF is treated as normal DFF. Since Reaction Fire is not legal I simply cannot say "this is Non-CC reaction Fire", just as I cannot say "this is DFF" during the PFPh.
I do not believe that is correct. I believe that D7.2 is defining for us how we may conduct Defensive Fire during the enemy MPh when an enemy vehicle enters the Location. If what you say is correct, then a DEFENDER may always use ordance in the same hex as DFF, and it would hardly be necessary to then again further define "Non-CC Reaction Fire" (which, after all, according to you can be used at all times and not just versus OVR.)
No, according to me, Non-CC Reaction Fire can only be used after an OVR, but Non-CC Reaction Fire is better than normal DFF (which can be used before the OVR) because the Gun doesn't pay case A or E, and it automatically hits the rear target facing.
This is an interesting decision: Do you fire before the OVR, with less chance of a hit and less chance of hitting the rear, or do you calmly wait until the AFV has OVR you and fire a much better shot in the AFV's rear?
There would, according to your interpretation, only be CC Reaction Fire, and normal DFF.
No, now you misinterprete what I say. I say that
1) If an AFV enters the Location and doesn't declare OVR, there is normal DFF only.
2) If an AFV enters the Location and declares OVR, there is:
a) Normal DFF (including OVR Prevention)
before the OVR is performed.
b) CC and Non-CC Reaction Fire
after the OVR is performed.
No, I believe that D7.2 tells us that an attack during the MPh versus a vehicle in the same Location is called Reaction Fire, and then it tells us how to conduct Reaction Fire. But hey, don't take my word for it.
Good, because I don't believe D7.2 says that much. I can understand your interpretation, but I think it goes too far, but at least we're both amused