CC and Leader Creation.

Scott Hasson

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One more question for the Collective.

Normal simultaneous CC (A11.11) is taking place, no ambush, no additional modifiers, etc. The Attacker succeeds in eliminating the defender, but only barely (Kill Number on CCT is a 7, Attacker rolls a 6). Now the Defender gets to attack since it is simultaneous. The roll is a 2. This suspends the CC to determine Leader Creation (A18.12) which produces a leader and also changes the odds ultimately reducing the required Attacker CCT to a 6. This changes the Attacker's result to a Casualty Reduction. So, the question: Is the newly created leader susceptible to the effect based on Random Selection or is the Casualty Reduction limited to the original units.

I would tend to think the leader is susceptible based on the tail end of A18.12: ...both attacks are re-figured using both of the originally-rolled Original DRs and the new leader's FP/Leadership just as if he had been there all along.
 

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Normal simultaneous CC (A11.11) is taking place, no ambush, no additional modifiers, etc. The Attacker succeeds in eliminating the defender, but only barely (Kill Number on CCT is a 7, Attacker rolls a 6). Now the Defender gets to attack since it is simultaneous. The roll is a 2. This suspends the CC to determine Leader Creation (A18.12) which produces a leader and also changes the odds ultimately reducing the required Attacker CCT to a 6. This changes the Attacker's result to a Casualty Reduction. So, the question: Is the newly created leader susceptible to the effect based on Random Selection or is the Casualty Reduction limited to the original units.

I would tend to think the leader is susceptible based on the tail end of A18.12: ...both attacks are re-figured using both of the originally-rolled Original DRs and the new leader's FP/Leadership just as if he had been there all along.
I believe that is correct.

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One more question for the Collective.

Normal simultaneous CC (A11.11) is taking place, no ambush, no additional modifiers, etc. The Attacker succeeds in eliminating the defender, but only barely (Kill Number on CCT is a 7, Attacker rolls a 6). Now the Defender gets to attack since it is simultaneous. The roll is a 2. This suspends the CC to determine Leader Creation (A18.12) which produces a leader and also changes the odds ultimately reducing the required Attacker CCT to a 6. This changes the Attacker's result to a Casualty Reduction. So, the question: Is the newly created leader susceptible to the effect based on Random Selection or is the Casualty Reduction limited to the original units.

I would tend to think the leader is susceptible based on the tail end of A18.12: ...both attacks are re-figured using both of the originally-rolled Original DRs and the new leader's FP/Leadership just as if he had been there all along.
Well done. +1
 
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