CC and Ambush q's vs a wreck

[Gunner Scott]

Hi-

Can a unit gain ambush against a wreck? Can a unit generate a leader if it rolls snakes vs the wreck? Can you even CC a wreck?

thank you

Scott

 

[klasmalmstrom]

Can a unit gain ambush against a wreck?

No - D10.1:
"...A non-burning wreck may be attacked by either side, treating the wreck as if it were still the original vehicle [EXC: for CC purposes it does not necessitate PAATC, cannot be Ambushed, and is considered CE and Abandoned (and therefore Immobile and with no useable MG)]..."

 

[Paul M. Weir]

The only question I have is "Why?".

 

[Justiciar]

The only question I have is "Why?".

1) CC burn....smoke!...this could mask an enemy death star...even drifting smoke (later) to mask friendly maneuver...
2) CC burn...deny enemy OPFOR to recover MGs/Baz/PIAT that they can use better than your side can. (possible VC is about firepower on X location and you want to deny enemy that 'upgrade' too.)
3) CC DR 2, you create a leader ....might help with your VC then too...exit off...etc
4) Style points
5) I am sure there are other good reason too...

 

[Gunner Scott]

Hi ya-

Raqndy I decided to try one of the Den ben phu scenarios called circle the wagons, this scenario has three truck wrecks and three GO trucks (which are transporting French troops), the French have to exit the playing area with the original company of guys and vehicles that set up on map. The Viet Minh need to stop the French from exiting, and with three wreck trucks on the only road on the map between the French and exit area, burning the wrecked trucks would further cost the French MP to try and exit.

Did not really matter in my game, the VC got crushed by the French armor and air support by turn 6, That canister is brutal, roll up on a unit and just make your C# roll and possibly cause a havoc. Not really a fun scenario at all.


Scott

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I don't think you can attack a truck wreck in CC to make it burn. D10.1 says: "...A non-burning wreck may be attacked by either side, treating the wreck as if it were still the original vehicle..."

If if was still the original vehicle, and per A11.52:
"...An unarmed, stopped/non-Motion vehicle without Personnel Escort is captured instantly in any CCPh in which it is alone with opposing Infantry..."

- i.e., it can't be attacked unless it has a "Personnel Escort".

 

[Justiciar]

Understood on the truck wreck. I was thinking it was AFV-like wreck. The OP did not mention truck...and* I did not think of the EXC you noted. Thanks for that pointer.