C1.82 & C1.83 Bombardment effects on CE AFV

[Ganjulama]

A German PzIVH is CE in open ground in a bombardment hex. AFV passes the equipment NMC with at '8'.

Does the CE exposed crew take the bombardment mandated 2MC too? If so, does it get CE +2 added to morale? I think 'no' because the CE DRM is not TEM. Therefore, the crew would have a Morale of '6' for the MC (if they have to take it).

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[jrv]

A German PzIVH is CE in open ground in a bombardment hex. AFV passes the equipment NMC with at '8'.

Does the CE exposed crew take the bombardment mandated 2MC too? If so, does it get CE +2 added to morale? I think 'no' because the CE DRM is not TEM. Therefore, the crew would have a Morale of '6' for the MC (if they have to take it).

C1.82 "All non-Aerial Personnel units and Vulnerable PRC not in the spared hexes must take a 2MC."

You would think that PRC would get the CE DRM, but it's not in the rules.

JR

 

[Ganjulama]

C1.82 "All non-Aerial Personnel units and Vulnerable PRC not in the spared hexes must take a 2MC."

You would think that PRC would get the CE DRM, but it's not in the rules.

Yes, and that is what flummoxed me and resulted in this post. Hopefully, @klasmalmstrom will chime in.

I could not find any errata or QA related to this.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

You would think that PRC would get the CE DRM, but it's not in the rules.

Agree - I don't see it applying either.

 

[Robin Reeve]

Who would stick one's head out of a tank during a bombardment, anyway?
If the rules punishes being stupid, I find that rather a good thing.

 

[Brian W]

I'm torn between "what AFV crew would be stupid enough to keep the hatches open during a bombardment"; and, a bombardment is a pre-game event: wouldn't there be time for the crew to go CE between the end of the bombardment and the beginning of the scenario?

 

[Ganjulama]

Who would stick one's head out of a tank during a bombardment, anyway?
If the rules punishes being stupid, I find that rather a good thing.

Setting up Flying Turrets and German AFV with ALs get ROF increased by one. There will be many Russians in LOS turn 1.

 

[jrv]

Setting up Flying Turrets and German AFV with ALs get ROF increased by one. There will be many Russians in LOS turn 1.

It will take them a while to get to the German MLR. Plenty of time to go CE (if you aren't dead already).

JR

 

[Brian W]

Setting up Flying Turrets and German AFV with ALs get ROF increased by one. There will be many Russians in LOS turn 1.

I was really criticizing the game mechanic. No attack ever followed a bombardment so closely that a BU AFV couldn't have unbuttoned.

 

[Paul M. Weir]

"THIS IS ASL!" <as he kicks realism argument down deep dark well>

 

[Mister T]

It will take them a while to get to the German MLR. Plenty of time to go CE (if you aren't dead already).

JR

And with all the German L Guns the TH numbers are reasonably good even if BU.

 

[Ganjulama]

It will take them a while to get to the German MLR. Plenty of time to go CE (if you aren't dead already).

And with all the German L Guns the TH numbers are reasonably good even if BU.

Looking at 65 AFVs coming at you is sort of panic inducing

Thanks to all for the input

 

[jrv]

Looking at 65 AFVs coming at you is sort of panic inducing

Eh. You get used to it.

JR

 

[Mister T]

Buuuuugs ! Buuuuugs !

 

[Philippe D.]

Looking at 65 AFVs coming at you is sort of panic inducing

All the more reason to go BU. Restrict your field of vision: you won't see all of them.