BRT Berserk on beach (CG16)

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If I have a berserk marine who can charge along a beach, does CG16 - During the MPh of these CG, a Marine MMC may move from one Beach hex to another only if using Assault Movement [EXC: if moving with a leader]. - prevent the berserker from taking the beach route, instead forcing him to go over the wall, down the sand hinterland? In effect, overriding the A15.431 rule stipulating shortest route in MF?

What if either way can get me there in the same MF (one along the beach, the other across hinterland), is the route my choice?


The CG16 rule states Good Order unit for the OTW TC, but it does not state such for the beach movement part.
 

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The berserker MMC is not req'd to take the OTW 4TC, as he is not
GO (failure would not Pin him, A15.42). Broken MMC could
also Rout over the Seawall w/o a 4TC, if otherwise able to.

Since the 2nd sentence of T15.4-CG16 does not specify GO, I
would judge that the 'Beach-hex only' route 'does not exist'
for the purposes of determining the shortest route in MF.
Unless Mr. B is accompanied by a B ldr, he can't NAM between
adjacent beach hexes. Similarly, broken MMC could only low-crawl
between beach hexes unless routing w/ a leader.

Thus to charge an enemy in an ADJ Beach location, a B MMC has to
enter a mutually-ADJ hinterland or Ocean hex 1st.

This 2nd sentence applies throughout the CG.
 
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countermanCX said:
Since the 2nd sentence of T15.4-CG16 does not specify GO, I
would judge that the 'Beach-hex only' route 'does not exist'
for the purposes of determining the shortest route in MF.
Unless Mr. B is accompanied by a B ldr, he can't NAM between
adjacent beach hexes. Similarly, broken MMC could only low-crawl
between beach hexes unless routing w/ a leader.
SO in effect, the CG16 rule overrides the A rule on taking the shortest route in MF. I agree that the wording of the rule makes moving on the beach by berserkers impossible. It also could make some very ridiculous situations as you pointed out, eg, a berserker with an IJN unit in an ADJACENT beach location, required to go voer the wall, and then back into the beach location.

As for broken guys, the CG16 rule does not address rout Phase, specifically stating "during the MPh", so I am sure routers have no such limitations based on CG16.
 

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I'm NRBH but check the seaborne assault rules. The marine on the beach is still coverered by the seaborne assault rules. I think the seaborne assault rules cancel heat of battle. If I'm right he shouldn't be beserk.

Of course maybe the whole thing is a figment of my imagination.

Adrian
 

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Adrian - you are not imagining things. I found it, G14.32. My unit is fanatic, not berserk. I guess it will not be charging to its death afterall. Of course that just means it will most likely die in place.
 
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