Breaking and Broken - in German

[WuWei]

What is the correct or established German translation for "breaking", and a "broken" unit? I learned ASL from another beginner, we had no connection to the German ASL scene, and we said "Die Einheit zerbricht (weil sie den Moralwurf nicht geschafft hat)." und "Die Einheit dort ist zerbrochen (und sogar mit DM markiert)." without much thinking about it.
I have heard some experienced wargamers using "brechen" und "gebrochen", instead. "Die Einheit bricht"/"Die Einheit ist gebrochen". And it makes sense, somehow. Man kann den Willen und die Moral eines Mannes brechen, die analoge Benutzung im Bezug auf eine ganze Einheit bietet sich an. Und hinterher ist das ein "gebrochener Mann", oder eben eine "gebrochene Einheit".

But what does the "scene" out there say? Are there other established German ASL terms out there?

 

[Robin Reeve]

Nahverteidigungswaffe perhaps?

 

[M.Koch]

Bricht/ gebrochen

 

[tunixx]

Never spent a lot of thoughts on this but "brechen" seems to be the natural translation to me. IMO "Zerbrechen" means that something is broken and the state it was in before cannot be restored, so I don't think it fits well in this context.

 

[Hemaelstrom]

Kaputt gehen/gegangen

 

[Tuomo]

Den glücklichen Hut tragen

 

[Paul M. Weir]

I always thought the proper term was gefucken.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Ein Pferd geht in eine Taverne. Der Wirt sagt: "Warum das lange Gesicht?"

 

[WuWei]

What would be a good translation for "Advancing Fire Phase"?

 

[Fortunato]

What would be a good translation for "Advancing Fire Phase"?

I'm an ASL newbie and by no means an expert when it comes to actual infantry tactics of WW2, but I'd figure "Sturmfeuer-Phase" (emphasizing that the advancing unit is firing whilst storming forward) would be an appropriate translation.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

The US Army put together an absolutely brilliant German-English MILITARY dictionary that is available for free online.

Check it out here:

https://archive.org/details/TM30-506

It's specifically geared toward the military words and jargon of the Second World War era.

 

[von Marwitz]

Bricht/ gebrochen

This.

Die Moral der Einheit bricht, bzw. die Einheit bricht.
Die Moral der Einheit ist gebrochen, bzw. die Einheit ist gebrochen.

von Marwitz

 

[von Marwitz]

I always thought the proper term was gefucken.

That would be 'gefickt'.

von Marwitz

 

[von Marwitz]

What would be a good translation for "Advancing Fire Phase"?

To be honest, I would not bother with the attempt to find proper German translations. It would be an endless undertaking. And if you are done and then afterwards anyone should actually learn the German terminology, he would be an ASL-illiterate for anyone else: Nobody would know what he is talking about and no one would be able to answer his questions if he wants to know something about the 'Sturmfeuerphase'.

So take my advice: Save time and effort and abstain from introducing a new German termiology.

von Marwitz

 

[Michael Dorosh]

That would be 'gefickt'.

von Marwitz

The legendary German sense of humour shines forth once again.

 

[von Marwitz]

The legendary German sense of humour shines forth once again.

I have a reputation to keep up to polish. A monocle alone will not do.

von Marwitz

 

[M.Koch]

I'm an ASL newbie and by no means an expert when it comes to actual infantry tactics of WW2, but I'd figure "Sturmfeuer-Phase" (emphasizing that the advancing unit is firing whilst storming forward) would be an appropriate translation.

I would say "Bewegungsfeuer" comes close.
(German) Army doctrine: No fire without movement….No movement without fire.

 

[M.Koch]

I have a reputation to keep up to polish. A monocle alone will not do.

von Marwitz

Next year, btw...

 

[Justiciar]

I have a reputation to keep up to polish. A monocle alone will not do.

von Marwitz

Eye patch then, perhaps...

 

[Justiciar]

To be honest, I would not bother with the attempt to find proper German translations. It would be an endless undertaking. And if you are done and then afterwards anyone should actually learn the German terminology, he would be an ASL-illiterate for anyone else: Nobody would know what he is talking about and no one would be able to answer his questions if he wants to know something about the 'Sturmfeuerphase'.

So take my advice: Save time and effort and abstain from introducing a new German termiology.

von Marwitz

Agree which is why its snoogiewoffer...to most of us.