Beyond Valor v Journals

What product would you take to a deserted island if you could have only one.


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The final two. Please vote for which of these two MMP ASL products you think is the best.

Remember that we know you cannot compare two such different products but imagine you are going to a desert island and you can take only one product. You get the components required to play and, of course, an opponent.

The question is: do you take the Journals or Beyond Valor.

Listen here if you want to hear me and Dave making the case for the two:

Poll closes in two weeks, is open to everyone and will finally decide the greatest product of all time.
 

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With beyond valour and the kit you can play scenarios with every “Friday “ you have on the desert island. You may even encourage Friday to play all week. After all you have memorised the rule book 📕 havnt you!! 🤔
 

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With beyond valour and the kit you can play scenarios with every “Friday “ you have on the desert island. You may even encourage Friday to play all week. After all you have memorised the rule book 📕 havnt you!! 🤔
It does say in the original post that you have an opponent and all components required to play the product.
 

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It seems to me that this is a choice between playing ASL and having reading material.

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There are a lot of scenarios in the Journals. Remember you get LL components and an opponent
 

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If I have to choose between the two - Journals. What's good BV for without a Rulebook.

But if not, I'd go with "Prinz Eugen" pack - the trees don't judge...
 

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So if you choose Beyond Valor, you get the rulebook and Beyond Valor.

If you choose the Journals, you get the rulebook, Journals, and pretty much every core module as well... including Beyond Valor! :whistle:
 

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So if you choose Beyond Valor, you get the rulebook and Beyond Valor.

If you choose the Journals, you get the rulebook, Journals, and pretty much every core module as well... including Beyond Valor! :whistle:
But you don't get the scenarios from BV - 'just' the counters, maps, rules and dice!
 

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So if you choose Beyond Valor, you get the rulebook and Beyond Valor.

If you choose the Journals, you get the rulebook, Journals, and pretty much every core module as well... including Beyond Valor! :whistle:
Also it isn't real! It is just a way to discuss the best MMP product.
 

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If I have to choose between the two - Journals. What's good BV for without a Rulebook.

But if not, I'd go with "Prinz Eugen" pack - the trees don't judge...
Prinz Eugen pack !! Bought it recently, haven't had a chance to play any scenarios yet...is it that good ??
 

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Much prefer the variety available in the Journals. Even a Journal with the same number of scenarios as BV3 would be more interesting to play through than all of Ostfront cards, not least given that I've played virtually every scenario in BV3 several times over.

A newb might see things differently. Nothing a few lashes wouldn't sort out.
 

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Much prefer the variety available in the Journals. Even a Journal with the same number of scenarios as BV3 would be more interesting to play through than all of Ostfront cards, not least given that I've played virtually every scenario in BV3 several times over.

A newb might see things differently. Nothing a few lashes wouldn't sort out.
That is the reason that i took the Journal's as well. Nothing against BV.
 

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Nearly 200 varied scenarios with the Journals...or 24 dreary eastern front Russian vs Germans scenarios? (eastern front is not my fav)

Tough choice. 😂
 

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Nearly 200 varied scenarios with the Journals...or 24 dreary eastern front Russian vs Germans scenarios? (eastern front is not my fav)

Tough choice. 😂
Pretty much what it comes down to. I ended up casting my vote after reading your post. I maybe like Eastern Front more than you (for me often depends on the armor/Guns involved), but I can name maybe 3 or 4 scenarios from BV I'd want to replay a lot (like on a desert island), if that. The number of good/great/classic scenarios in the Journals, without even considering articles, makes them an easy choice for me. I might even take Journal 3 all by itself over BV (but I like the early war stuff a lot and small to medium-sized scenarios, so that Journal was right up my alley).
 
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