B24 Rubble and mortar fire

[Robin Reeve]

As rubble is no more a building, may mortars fire from a rubble location?

 

[2 Bit Bill]

As rubble is no more a building, may mortars fire from a rubble location?

I said Yes. :laugh:

You could probably fire from Upper Level Rubble which is(maybe?) still considered part of the Building.

Don't forget about Roofs.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

As rubble is no more a building, may mortars fire from a rubble location?

Yes - since rubble is not longer a Building Location.
However note also that a 5/8" Mortar can only be in rubble if it is a Small-Target-Size Gun.

 

[Robin Reeve]

Thanks guys!

However note also that a 5/8" Mortar can only be in rubble if it is a Small-Target-Size Gun.

Where can I find the rules' reference for that detail?

 

[klasmalmstrom]

Thanks guys!Where can I find the rules' reference for that detail?

B23.423 and C2.7.

 

[Robin Reeve]

B23.423 and C2.7.

Thanks Klas!
As we say in French : "C'est la classe !" ("It is the class !")

 

[Michael R]

When Klas answered in 2008, he did not reference the upper level aspect.

 

[jimfer]

81 mm Mtr. on second level rubble ...

 

[Michael R]

We've been doing this in our Ortona play-test. An 81mm MTR can definitely fire from rubble.

C2.7 PROHIBITED HEXES: A Gun cannot occupy an upper building level [EXC: Fortified Buildings and mortars on Rooftops], nor can it occupy a Water Obstacle, crag [EXC: mortars; B17.4], marsh, or Irrigated-paddy (G8.12) unless dm and possessed or in/on a vehicle/boat. Small-Target-Size Guns and AT/INF Guns that are not large targets are the only ⅝" non-vehicular Gun counters that may ever occupy a building/rubble hex.

To me, an upper level rubble location is not an upper level building location.

 

[Cpl Uhl]

This is of those rules you can put to good use when an ssr let's you rubble locations/hexes prior to setup. Had it used against me once to devastating effect. Won't forget that.

 

[jimfer]

This is of those rules you can put to good use when an ssr let's you rubble locations/hexes prior to setup. Had it used against me once to devastating effect. Won't forget that.

The best lessons are the painful ones... we tend to remember them and put them in our tactics section. I have more than a few ARRRGH! moments.