da priest said:
Not what you were proselytizing. You didn't limit your variant to just HW teams or MOL-P teams or MG sections..no you wanted it for all gangs, regular platoons etc...you lose. :cheeky:
You have misunderstood me (and from your tone probably on purpose). First off, I leave the proselytizing to you -- da Priest.
The limit of my discussion was in regard to HW platoons assigned to Companies. I have never advocated the concept of fire teams – that was your contribution to the discussion.
In general, fire teams don’t make sense within the timeframe (roughly 1920-1955) that ASL can simulate. Fire teams are predicated upon the use of assault rifles/GPMGs/SAWs.
If you examine the TO&E of nationalities within the given timeframe, you don’t really see HWs assigned to regular rifle squads -- not for tactical reason, not for supply and logistical reasons, not for C^2 reasons, and not for training reasons. They are usually assigned to HW platoons/squads/teams, but not in every case.
da priest said:
Good try, no cigar, ALL are either HW teams or MOL-P teams or MG sections, now if your scenario is Amis wander into contact with a HW's unit of the evil Nasi Horde--then a a use of crews for the Germans would be understandable, but not for the AMis. :devil:
I made no statement to the contrary, this was exactly the point I was making. Practically all of the historical games use HS/crews to represent HW teams. What I am saying is that scenario/campaign designers should take these considerations into account – a “change”, by the way, that has no rules implications what-so-ever and is more widespread than you give it credit for. (Which, btw, was the point of my mockery.
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da priest said:
Love it when a plan comes together, HOB has dropped SW crews like a hot rock..doesn't sell...chuckle, laugh.... :devil:
Do you actually have something to back this up ? This smells like cow manure to me. Can you prove that their products that don’t sell is because of SW crews? I am willing to bet that this is a 3rd or 4th order consideration, at best, in the purchase decision.
da priest said:
Well, ya'll would have a point if we had jest been talkin' about HW teams, but then I wouldn't have rushed to the barricades. :dead:
I don’t see how you could have interpreted this any other way. The sole foray into “proselytizing” is advocating the use of crews and rule G1.611 to better represent the tactical doctrine of the day. Whether the crew should be a 127 or a 228 would depend upon the character of the Company. But really, I am fine with using HSs. As far as “variants” go, this one is fairly small – it’s not like the IIFT.
Also, it is not “my variant”; it has been played with for over 10 years in one form or another.
Again, the point I was trying to make (before you misinterpreted it way off topic) was that the use of half-squads to man MTRs and other HWs is not doing an end run around nationality characteristics.