B13.41 VCA change on a woods-road hex

Larry

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You are preaching to the converted, Stew! I always understood that a vehicle in a woods/road hex that entered via the road was considered to be on the road for movement/VCA change purposes. The Q&A suggests that I was incorrect in that view and it is obvious that I am not alone in this. Perhaps the use of the words "I believe" in the Q&A when suggesting the 4MP cost for changing VCA across a non-road hex side suggests that the Q&A should not be regarded as definitive. I can't help thinking how long it would take a platoon of French AFVs with five MP available to move along a woods road where there is a turn across a non-road hex side to negotiate. The war would be over by the time they reached their destination!
You may have hit the nail on the head.
 

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What happens if one reverse engineers the "real" movement of a platoon of French AFVs along a twisty road and then comes up with "early war AFV road rules"?
 

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Like most people here, I fall on the “1MP/2MP” side of the debate, and had a right row with my opponent at Heroes while playing The Art Of Dying, when I wanted to turn my Italian tanks around on the woods road to avoid a Russian gun at the other end of it, and he insisted on the 2MP/4MP interpretation. He kept referring to Jim Bishop’s blog on the subject, and I felt obliged to point out that a blog is just one person’s opinion, not holy writ. If MMP/Klas say it’s 2MP/4MP then so be it, but it feels bloody stupid.
 

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I guess it’s time to SSR in the proper MP cost to change VCA on a woods/road hex.
No need, just ignore, the rules easily trump the Perry Sez with no Support in the rules.

I cannot see anyone I know apply the sez in their games with each other or when we play.
 

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That was quick.
 

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Hurray! I think this is the correct solution since it appears almost all scenarios in playtest and ROAR have been played the way the updated Q&A says. Sure, the rules really could be interpreted either way, but since the poll here on GS seemed to show almost no one played it the way the original Q&A stated, and the original Q&A was catching most people off guard, it really made sense to align the Q&A with how almost everyone had been interpreting the ambiguously worded rules.
 

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From Robert Hammond, explaining why he asked for the review.
Dear GS:
Hi! First, I must thank Scott for posting this answer and all the other answers I have received from Perry.
Second, I pulled this question of VCA change on a woods-road after reading Jim Bishop’s article. Jim writes incredibly well written and thought provoking articles. His blog, The Bishop Says, is something I look forward to reading. I know other ASL players do, also. These articles have helped me to improve my game play.
Third, I wish to say Thank You to Perry for answering all of my questions. Over the last two years, I have asked a BUNCH of questions. Perry has answered every one.
The reason I asked Scott to post this is two fold. I wanted to publicly say thank you to these three people. I also wanted to make sure everyone knew Jim wrote a great article that correctly applied the rules with the latest Q&A. His article caused me to read the rules mentioned and think it through. This led me to write to Perry. These three gentlemen have made the game better for me. I hope they have helped you, also.
And this rates an "aww, shucks" reply from me. I aspire to phrase my Q&A the way Robert phrases his. I'm just his humble posting servant.
 
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