ASL Starter Kit Shipping Info
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SamB
Shut up and play!
My two copies arrived in Seattle today.
Thanks guys, it looks great.
I'll post a "review" in a bit.
Thanks guys, it looks great.
I'll post a "review" in a bit.
Chas Argent
Play to the end.
I submitted the scenarios to ROAR tonight, so hopefully JR will put them up soon & people will start recording their games played.
ericblick
Recruit
I got mine today and it looks good from a physical point of view - here it comes- BUT the graphic quality of the boards is somewhat disappointing.
Back in the day SL and ASL mapboards were pretty special in as much as the artwork did a pretty nice tightrope dance of clarity and artistic depiction of overhead views of terrain.
I think the ASLSK boards are fairly cartoonish and lack an artist's touch. Frankly it looks like someone trying a graphics program out for first time using clip art. This is , of course arguably a trivial point, but I remember one of the appeals to me as a newbie was the excellent mapboard art.
Just another opinion. I'm still happy to get the starter kit out there to recruit some new players.
Steve "No unexpressed thoughts" Blickens
Thanks, MMP
Back in the day SL and ASL mapboards were pretty special in as much as the artwork did a pretty nice tightrope dance of clarity and artistic depiction of overhead views of terrain.
I think the ASLSK boards are fairly cartoonish and lack an artist's touch. Frankly it looks like someone trying a graphics program out for first time using clip art. This is , of course arguably a trivial point, but I remember one of the appeals to me as a newbie was the excellent mapboard art.
Just another opinion. I'm still happy to get the starter kit out there to recruit some new players.
Steve "No unexpressed thoughts" Blickens
Thanks, MMP
SamB
Shut up and play!
My brief review... FWIW.
In one box, you have about 9 or 10 pages of rules, two maps and all the counters you need to play the six scenarios that are included. It costs less than $25 and is a self-contained game. This is a _GREAT_ way to attract new players and to get some of the guys who bought the rule book 20 years ago but never played (back) into the hobby.
I bought two copies on pre order and now I wish I had 10. We have a tourney coming up at the end of May where there will be 40+ ASL players and 200+ historical miniatures gamers. I want ten or twelve of these to offer to guys who wander in and look at the Red Barricades map, or the games in progress and say "I used to play Squad Leader...".
For years Avalon Hill (and even MMP for a while) used to advocate that you play Squad Leader first and then move on to Advanced Squad Leader. The major problem with that was that you had to "unlearn" much of the Squad Leader rules to play ASL. The starter kit is a subset of ASL. You can pick up the start kit, learn to play in an hour and you won't have to "unlearn" anything when you go on to buy the ASL rule book and modules.
Great job, folks. I want all the "groggies" out there to promise not to buy the starter kit for themselves - but buy it and get it into the hands of new players.
Scenarios:
S1 - Retaking Vierville - 7 June 1944 (Vierville, France)
11 US squads, with a 9-2, two 8-1's and an 8-0
11 German squads, with two 9-1's, an 8-1 and and 8-0
Village board, 5 turns.
Americans win if there are no good order German MMC in four specified buildings The Americans start with three squads on board.
In the first three turns both sides squads "trickle in" two or three squads at a time.
No support weapons.
S2 - War of the Rats - 26 Sep 1942 (Stalingrad)
13 Russian squads with a MMG, and 3 LMG. Lead by a 9-2, 8-1, 8-0. 11 German squads with a MMG, 3 LMG, FT and 2 DC. Lead by a 9-2, 9-1, and 8-1. City Board, 6 turns. Germans win if they control three specific buildings.
S3 - Simple Equation - 12 Oct 1944 (Aachen, Germany)
12 German second line and conscripts, HMG, 3 LMG, 8-1, 8-0, and two 7-0 14 and a half US squads, 2 MMG, FT, 9-2, 9-1, and two 8-0 Two half boards - city/village, 6 and a half turns. US wins immediately when they control at least 25 building hexes.
S4 - Welcome Back - 16 Dec 1944 (Bosingen, Luxembourg)
8 mixed quality US squads, .50 cal, 2 MMG, 2 FT, 10-2, 8-1, 8-0
15 second line German squads, 2MMG, 3 LMG, 9-1, two 8-1, two 7-0
Village board, 5 and a half turns.
Germans win by exiting 10 VP.
S5 - Clearing Colleville - 6 June 1944 (Colleville, Normandy) 10 German squads, HMG, MMG, LMG, 8-1, 8-0, 6+1
12+ US squads, 3 MMG, 9-2, 9-1, 8-1, 8-0
Village board, 5 turns.
US Wins if there are no good order Germans MMC in stone buildngs within a certain area.
S6 - Released from the East - 11 Dec 1941 (Istra, Russia)
9 Elite Germans squads, MMG, 3 LMG, 9-2, 8-1, 8-0
14 Elite Russian squads, MMG, 2 LMG, DC, 9-1, 8-1, 8-0
City board, 5 and a half turns
Russians win if they control at least two of three specified buildings.
In one box, you have about 9 or 10 pages of rules, two maps and all the counters you need to play the six scenarios that are included. It costs less than $25 and is a self-contained game. This is a _GREAT_ way to attract new players and to get some of the guys who bought the rule book 20 years ago but never played (back) into the hobby.
I bought two copies on pre order and now I wish I had 10. We have a tourney coming up at the end of May where there will be 40+ ASL players and 200+ historical miniatures gamers. I want ten or twelve of these to offer to guys who wander in and look at the Red Barricades map, or the games in progress and say "I used to play Squad Leader...".
For years Avalon Hill (and even MMP for a while) used to advocate that you play Squad Leader first and then move on to Advanced Squad Leader. The major problem with that was that you had to "unlearn" much of the Squad Leader rules to play ASL. The starter kit is a subset of ASL. You can pick up the start kit, learn to play in an hour and you won't have to "unlearn" anything when you go on to buy the ASL rule book and modules.
Great job, folks. I want all the "groggies" out there to promise not to buy the starter kit for themselves - but buy it and get it into the hands of new players.
Scenarios:
S1 - Retaking Vierville - 7 June 1944 (Vierville, France)
11 US squads, with a 9-2, two 8-1's and an 8-0
11 German squads, with two 9-1's, an 8-1 and and 8-0
Village board, 5 turns.
Americans win if there are no good order German MMC in four specified buildings The Americans start with three squads on board.
In the first three turns both sides squads "trickle in" two or three squads at a time.
No support weapons.
S2 - War of the Rats - 26 Sep 1942 (Stalingrad)
13 Russian squads with a MMG, and 3 LMG. Lead by a 9-2, 8-1, 8-0. 11 German squads with a MMG, 3 LMG, FT and 2 DC. Lead by a 9-2, 9-1, and 8-1. City Board, 6 turns. Germans win if they control three specific buildings.
S3 - Simple Equation - 12 Oct 1944 (Aachen, Germany)
12 German second line and conscripts, HMG, 3 LMG, 8-1, 8-0, and two 7-0 14 and a half US squads, 2 MMG, FT, 9-2, 9-1, and two 8-0 Two half boards - city/village, 6 and a half turns. US wins immediately when they control at least 25 building hexes.
S4 - Welcome Back - 16 Dec 1944 (Bosingen, Luxembourg)
8 mixed quality US squads, .50 cal, 2 MMG, 2 FT, 10-2, 8-1, 8-0
15 second line German squads, 2MMG, 3 LMG, 9-1, two 8-1, two 7-0
Village board, 5 and a half turns.
Germans win by exiting 10 VP.
S5 - Clearing Colleville - 6 June 1944 (Colleville, Normandy) 10 German squads, HMG, MMG, LMG, 8-1, 8-0, 6+1
12+ US squads, 3 MMG, 9-2, 9-1, 8-1, 8-0
Village board, 5 turns.
US Wins if there are no good order Germans MMC in stone buildngs within a certain area.
S6 - Released from the East - 11 Dec 1941 (Istra, Russia)
9 Elite Germans squads, MMG, 3 LMG, 9-2, 8-1, 8-0
14 Elite Russian squads, MMG, 2 LMG, DC, 9-1, 8-1, 8-0
City board, 5 and a half turns
Russians win if they control at least two of three specified buildings.
SamB
Shut up and play!
There's not a lot left out to make it the "full" ASL system. There's no Heat of Battle, no sniper, etc. But those things are pretty much random events that I would argue don't change the balance often. (when they chage it, it can be severe, but they don't come into play often...)
There are no levels in buildings - its like having an SSR that says all buildings are ground level only.
I don't think balance with / without what's missing is going to be a problem.
JMO
Sam
Henrik
Member
Am I the only one that has not recieved my pre-ordered ASLSK yet?
sgtono
Member
Received mine yesterday, great looking product, well done. Counters, rules, and charts look great. Look foward to trying this with a new ASL person.
But to be honest, I am glad I made the leap to buy the unmounted mapsheets as they are and had them laminated. Just my opinion, but I do not like the new mapboards at all and will not be interested in purchasing any further modules with them. On the positive side I have all the modules and with AOO will be complete, so will have many years of new ASL to play.
Will future HASL modules have the ASLSK style mapsheets or the usual?
Keith
But to be honest, I am glad I made the leap to buy the unmounted mapsheets as they are and had them laminated. Just my opinion, but I do not like the new mapboards at all and will not be interested in purchasing any further modules with them. On the positive side I have all the modules and with AOO will be complete, so will have many years of new ASL to play.
Will future HASL modules have the ASLSK style mapsheets or the usual?
Keith
klsmith
Member
Henrik,
I haven't got mine either, and I'm in Tennessee
I haven't got mine either, and I'm in Tennessee
sdkfz
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I have not received mine nor has my credit card be debited (so I shall not be receiving it soon). My order was on 2-19-2004.... Am in the problem file you think?
Rowland
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csiemers
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My order was 2/12/04 and I haven't received it in Oregon, nor does it appear my credit card has been charged.
sgtono
Member
csiemers said:
csiemers,
What part of Oregon do you hail?
Keith
kilometers
Member
I live in North Dakota, placed my pre-order on 3-11-04, and have not gotten mine yet, either.
SamB
Shut up and play!
Guys, just FYI
I ordered my two copies Jan 9, 2004. Your orders were placed one or TWO months after mine. They are apparently still working thro the back log of orders...
Yours will come.
Sam
I ordered my two copies Jan 9, 2004. Your orders were placed one or TWO months after mine. They are apparently still working thro the back log of orders...
Yours will come.
Sam
Larry
Elder Member
I ordered one on January 8 and one on March 10. I got one and still wait for the second. :?
I ordered mine on March 5, and got it today.
It looks really nice, especially the boards. I wouldn't mind having all 50 something boards like this. It'd be a heckva lot lighter and no need to laminate like the unmounted boards.
Cheers,
Roger
It looks really nice, especially the boards. I wouldn't mind having all 50 something boards like this. It'd be a heckva lot lighter and no need to laminate like the unmounted boards.
Cheers,
Roger
Gunner Scott
Forum Guru
Laminated boards
Hi-
Gotta agree, I laminated and cut all 52 maps and wow, what a difference, I can fit all of them in my beyond valor box with lots of room for other stuff.
Lamanation job aint great, but its functional.
Scott
Hi-
Gotta agree, I laminated and cut all 52 maps and wow, what a difference, I can fit all of them in my beyond valor box with lots of room for other stuff.
Lamanation job aint great, but its functional.
Scott
Henrik
Member
How is MMP shipping the starter kits?
How is MMP shipping the starter kits? They charged my Credit Card monday and now 5 days later I still have not recieved it. If I remember correctly they mentioned it would be shipped UPS or USPS Priority, eitherway I thought it should have reached me by now. Was looking forward to a lot of ASL over the easter weekend.
Henrik
How is MMP shipping the starter kits? They charged my Credit Card monday and now 5 days later I still have not recieved it. If I remember correctly they mentioned it would be shipped UPS or USPS Priority, eitherway I thought it should have reached me by now. Was looking forward to a lot of ASL over the easter weekend.
Henrik