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Neither roleplaying nor storytelling is helped in any way if anyone in a group of players and the DM has ample reason to interpret one and the same rule differently.
This is key. It is a very different ruleset from ASL, but I have been in many debates where a rule being ambiguous served no purpose but to cause angst.
 

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AB - SO - LUTE - LY !

In that regard, the ASL stewards also need to be acclaimed for their approach to the eASLRB:

This is not a subscription model. You pay once, you get free updates, updates are not merely promised but duly executed. This is a fair business model, making the eASLRB a fine buy.

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YES! The eASLRB is the best invention for humanity since Velcro! I never break out my binder rules at all. I had the Pocket RB and hardly used it. So, I gave it to one of the local guys I play with. I'm licking my chops waiting for the eHASL to come out. I can also say I use the pocket Charts more and more. Though, I was resistant to it for a while.

Saw Motorhead twice, first time they opened for Ozzy Osbourne (with Randy Rhodes on lead guitar, best I saw him outside of Black Sabbath). That was damn loud, but the 2nd time I saw him in a large bar as headliner, we knew we were in for it the moment they turned the amps on and did a quick soundcheck. Crazy loud. 🎸 Worse than seeing Deep Purple in their Guiness Records days outside with a much bigger PA but being in a confined space had some looking for the exits early, LOL! Crazy Good, both times, fantastic band. Lemmy forever!
Great, I have the HAT Trick of Hearing Loss. I was a combat Engineer (Explosives), A Professional Musician (Blues rock LOUDLY back in the day), and into Shooting sports. Now days my little Princeton Reverbs are my live rig. My half stacks haven't seen a stage in over 25 years.

I saw Randy Rhodes 2 times. The last was in February 1982 a few weeks before he was killed. The show in 81 was at the Old Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh (Benedum Center now). Def Leppard opened, and I think a few of there were 17 years old back then. I was in the Orchestra Pit and loud from the on-stage amp volume. Ozzy was very hard to hear over the pure hard metal rock! It was loud as hell, but nothing like Deep Purple in 1985 Perfect Strangers tour. My ears are still ringing from that. Black Sabbath with Dio was VERY loud as well. I Will say Randy was one of the best players I have ever seen live. I was heartbroken the day he was killed. Wow where have the years gone!
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I started with SL in '82 (maybe '81?), really can't remember exactly, after an unusual introduction via a friend who described it much like an WWII RPG, I guess he thought I'd be more interested that way since we were D&D players. The bug bit me pretty good immediately, some time later we drove an hour to the nearest game shop and I bought SL. Another friend then bought each of the gamettes when they were available at the shop and we played the heck out of it including some very out of control DYO messes on 8 boards for giggles.

I was initially unhappy to have to buy the rules again with the release of ASL, but I came across a killer deal (1991 I think) where someone was apparently selling off all of their stuff due to moving, and I got the rules, BV, Para, Last Hurrah, Streets of Fire, and Red Barricades for $250 Cdn.
Absolutely the best bang for the buck of any purchase I have ever made, especially since it included Red Barricades.

I have always been a fan of a campaign regardless of the game, RPG, wargame, whatever, the big picture is the thing for me.
Scenarios are great for variety and particularly expanding your rules experience, but I don't think I'd be as enamoured with the game if there were no HASLs.
Early on in SL days we used the leader campaign rules, and I really enjoyed progressing through a SASL campaign.
Unfortunately I was really the only one in our group interested in long campaigns.

ASL will always be the masterpiece of games, detailed and absorbing while being many things to many people at the same time.
 

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YES! The eASLRB is the best invention for humanity since Velcro! I never break out my binder rules at all. I had the Pocket RB and hardly used it. So, I gave it to one of the local guys I play with. I'm licking my chops waiting for the eHASL to come out. I can also say I use the pocket Charts more and more. Though, I was resistant to it for a while.



Great, I have the HAT Trick of Hearing Loss. I was a combat Engineer (Explosives), A Professional Musician (Blues rock LOUDLY back in the day), and into Shooting sports. Now days my little Princeton Reverbs are my live rig. My half stacks haven't seen a stage in over 25 years.

I saw Randy Rhodes 2 times. The last was in February 1982 a few weeks before he was killed. The show in 81 was at the Old Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh (Benedum Center now). Def Leppard opened, and I think a few of there were 17 years old back then. I was in the Orchestra Pit and loud from the on-stage amp volume. Ozzy was very hard to hear over the pure hard metal rock! It was loud as hell, but nothing like Deep Purple in 1985 Perfect Strangers tour. My ears are still ringing from that. Black Sabbath with Dio was VERY loud as well. I Will say Randy was one of the best players I have ever seen live. I was heartbroken the day he was killed. Wow where have the years gone!
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I loved my Rock loud and proud, saw everyone you mentioned and these are priceless memories for me, for sure. I went to well over 500 concerts from 1971 - 2019, my hearing is not as good as it once was but don't need hearing aids just yet. I love Rock still but it is You Tube, not riding 2 hours to a live venue, that does it for me as I look at 70 next month. Thank god for Bose Headphones!

Obligatory ASL: Back to playtesting for Dispatch #59 with Tom, 2 scenarios down and 2 to go before I ask for playtest volunteers after the holidays. We have a PTO all armor battle in the Philippines or an early Russian Front action still to do. Roll low and enjoy!
 
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I started with SL in 1978, but didn't really play too much for several years - instead I designed maps for the system. It wasn't until only a couple years ago that I started gaming about twice a month - a huge improvement over the previous several years. Now I design and game - a lot, dedicating about half my time to each. I practically live ASL at this point in my life (I know..)
 

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I make sure mine knows how much Magic: the Gathering and Miniatures cost (neither of which I partake in)
It all depends on how savvy you are with your tongue.

@Psycho: That's what she said.

@ the others: You could also tell yours what ridiculous amount of money you can make by selling a single very rare card after a couple of years, which will easily cover all expenses to get them - at the right time, i.e. now.

;)

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I make sure mine knows how much Magic: the Gathering and Miniatures cost (neither of which I partake in)
There's also a longevity component that adds a value to ASL that those two hobbies lack.

Games Workshop will pump out a new edition every 2-3 years, often wrecking your army list. Yes, you could play casually with friends on your edition, but it makes your miniatures less "interchangeable" for battles with other players who may be on the current edition.

The same goes for MTG as newer cards may have abilities that are definitively better than older cards. Again, you could play in a friend group and be fine, but it limits your potential opponents.

For ASL, I have made it clear once I get the core modules, I could play the rest of my life easily; even additional scenario packs are a reasonable price point. I also never have to ask someone, "What version of BV do you have? Oh, sorry, we can't play together."
 

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There's also a longevity component that adds a value to ASL that those two hobbies lack.

Games Workshop will pump out a new edition every 2-3 years, often wrecking your army list. Yes, you could play casually with friends on your edition, but it makes your miniatures less "interchangeable" for battles with other players who may be on the current edition.

The same goes for MTG as newer cards may have abilities that are definitively better than older cards. Again, you could play in a friend group and be fine, but it limits your potential opponents.

For ASL, I have made it clear once I get the core modules, I could play the rest of my life easily; even additional scenario packs are a reasonable price point. I also never have to ask someone, "What version of BV do you have? Oh, sorry, we can't play together."
I am absolutely in line with this.

Games Workshop business practices are anathema to me. Same for MTG.
They have not and will not earn a single penny from me.

The same is true for any games that use subscription type business models.

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I make sure mine knows how much Magic: the Gathering and Miniatures cost (neither of which I partake in)

Ah, deflection tactics. "Honey don't worry about the guy I wasted it could be worse. Look at Ted Bundy."

I really don't think that would work in my house. I don't/won't lie to my wife. However, I don't offer up any intel either. My ASL boxes are on a nice bookcase in her in home office. Maybe I like to hide things in plain sight? Maybe she thinks they are history books? Maybe she is on to me and biding her time until:
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Panzer Leader, France 1940, Tobruk. In that order IIRC.
I also enjoyed and became deeply involved with playing NATO/Warsaw Pact actions with the GHQ miniatures on a large gaming table I had constructed in the basement. I can't recall the rules set which I used for the miniatures though. I wish I could find where I had stored all of those vehicles, I'm positive I didn't toss them away after all of the time I had spent painting them!
 
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