Any article or playing aid for Panjis?

Discussion in 'Advanced Squad Leader' started by msoong38, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. msoong38

    msoong38 Member

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    Feb 11, 2014
    Silicon Valley, CA
    encountering panjis for the first time in my next pto pbem game. Reading the rules and my eye is blazing over. Any helper material out there?
     
  2. Mister T

    Mister T Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    Bruxelles
    Please MMP, I beg you, give me an axe, i cut the panjis rules by two thirds and we are finally going to see and enjoy panjis in scenarios !! :)
     
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  3. Paul M. Weir

    Paul M. Weir Well-Known Member

    Apr 3, 2004
    Dublin
    Other than "Don't walk onto one!", I don't think I can help.
     
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  4. Melvin Falk

    Melvin Falk Fänrik

    Oct 20, 2004
    East Front
    Tip from the Trenches; delete the Panji rules
    Ask about Animal-Pack , my reply will start with "delete it":)
     
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  5. Brian W

    Brian W Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2003
    USA
    Easier than that: booby trap level b. Done.
     
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  6. Melvin Falk

    Melvin Falk Fänrik

    Oct 20, 2004
    East Front
    You mean level A, and there is no Random Selection.
     
  7. Swiftandsure

    Swiftandsure Robin Reeve Silver Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2003
    St-Légier
    The fact that panjis hardly ever appear in scenarios speaks of their bad representation in the ASL system.
    I would plead for an official alternative.
    And if someone screams that it would overthrow the design of the rare scenarios which use panjis, well, the new alternate version would be used in new scenario designs.
    I think that a rule comparable with wire (with some more severe effects on morale) could be quite easily crafted.
     
  8. Mister T

    Mister T Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    Bruxelles
    (OT)
    I was at Alesia the other day, where Julius Ceasar decisively defeated Gallic tribes (52bc) and the Romans used extensively "panjis" at the foot of their fortifications to break the momentum of rushing Gallic foot soldiers. As one can see, it's a very old technique that deserves some showing in ASL.
    (End OT)
     
  9. jrv

    jrv Vare, legiones redde!

    May 25, 2005
    Teutoburger Wald
    I hardly ever see references in WWII histories to things that are punjis or punji-like, even in places you might think they might be common. Perhaps someone could say where they were common.

    JR
     
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  10. Spencer Armstrong

    Spencer Armstrong Canard de Guerre

    Mar 7, 2009
    Gainesville, FL
    They appear so rarely in fact, that even the most conservative minded among us could probably live with a complete rewrite. It'd affect the balance on, what, two official extant scenarios?
     
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  11. Swiftandsure

    Swiftandsure Robin Reeve Silver Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2003
    St-Légier
    Whispering, shy voice: "... and if alternate, streamlined rules were also designed for caves and seaborne assaults...
    But hush! Someone could be hearing!"
    (sound of scuttling feet and shadow fading away into the darkness)
     
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  12. Swiftandsure

    Swiftandsure Robin Reeve Silver Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2003
    St-Légier
    Tiger traps would be nice too.
    There were in Battle Hymn, the PTO version of Ambush!
     
  13. Yuri0352

    Yuri0352 Active Member Silver Supporting Member

    Nov 21, 2014
    25-30 Hexes
    Yes!
    And hopefully any reasonable, workable modification will be created before the appearance of a 'official ' Vietnam ASL module.
    No expectations though.
     
  14. Brian W

    Brian W Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2003
    USA
    Vietnam ASL? The Korea ASL module was in playtest since the late (mid?) 1990s, and hasn't yet been released; why would Vietnam ASL take less than 20 years to publish? Most ASL players will be unable to play ASL 20 years from now, even if they want to play Vietnam ASL.
     
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  15. Nineteen Kilo

    Nineteen Kilo Active Member

    607
    Nov 24, 2005
    Fair Oaks CA
    Were they panjis or abatis? Of course this makes a world of difference. ;)
     
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  16. Spencer Armstrong

    Spencer Armstrong Canard de Guerre

    Mar 7, 2009
    Gainesville, FL
    It’s true. Abatis would require an entirely separate and distinct overly complicated rules section. :)
     
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  17. Mr Incredible

    Mr Incredible Rod loves red undies

    Oct 26, 2004
    Perth, Australia
    Funny thing.

    About to play Orange at Walawbum.

    First time use for Panjis for me.
     
  18. von Marwitz

    von Marwitz Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2010
    Kraut Corner
    Played that one about seven years ago. I liked that scenario (and the Panjis in it).

    von Marwitz
     
  19. Mister T

    Mister T Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    Bruxelles
    Not abatis clearly, they were called cippus in Latin.
     
  20. thedrake

    thedrake Active Member

    Feb 2, 2003
    Slidell,Louisiana
    Backblast issue #2 had an article for use of panjis---"Hung Up,Skewered,and Blasted to Smithereens"---hope this helps.
     
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