Alexander by Oliver Stone

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Anybody seen it already? Out Jan. 5 here. Heard it's even worse than Troy, which is quite scary :eek: :scream:
 

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salut!

c'est un films sur la psychologie d'Alexandre et non une Saga de ses conquetes.... j'ai plustot aimé, mais moyen. (mieux que Troy quand meme..)

here is my review:
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I've finally seen ALexander.

ok.

Cinematography is good - normal it's a movie done by one of the best directors alive.

Special effects: great.

historical Accuracy: I'm not a specialist of the period, but I found the uniforms of Persians and Macedonians and Greeks very well done and the depiction of the interior of houses annd of Alexandria (Egypt) and Babylon excellent. As for the battles, they are confused (I don't like it so much) by choice.

sexuality, etc. : I think the movie was quite to what I imagine ti was at the times.

my opinion is that this is not an Epic saga of the life of Alexander the Great, but rather a story on the pshychoogy of Alexander... how he reacted to his mother and father and friends and fellow soldiers as well as conquerred people.

Not bad at all in that respect as it showed a humane Alexander, with his obsessions and acts of rage. I could not indentify myself with the character because of the sexual part of the scenes... that are still disturbing for a 100% hetero and 20th century bred guy like me, but I guess that is ok at the times...

I found that the entire campaign before Gaugamelas that is missing is a mistake because ti would show hwo and why the Macedonians and the Phalanx were so great a weapon for the times.. (the phalanx was not as impressive in the moovie as I thought it should have been...an advancing wall of spikes... for that braveheart - or spartacus - was better done...) and I thought that the movie did not show enough of the brutality of Alexander's rage when his horse and when his lovers died.

I also dont' like when actors in an acient movie speak with scottish and irish accent.. get a grip guys, you're paid millions.. do some effort to get the accent away... I mean angelina Jolie - Olympia - forces herself to do a sort of Greek accent, and Crater speaks scottish!!

actors play is great, which i expected under the direction of Oliver Stone - but still he is better director in movies like Platoon, JFK, the Doors, Natural Born Killers, and Any Given Sunday (I am a big Oliver Stone Fan).

and the full debate here:


http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19187&page=1&pp=15
 

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Agreed

I was very disappointed that the first battle portrayed was Gaugamela. They left out a great deal of what shaped and moulded Alexander beforehand. More than anything the movie focused on his relationships with everyone around him, and mainly his wanderings in the region of eastern Persia and Afghanistan! Big mistake if you ask me. Also the actor who played Alexander showed no confidence to his men in the movie, and seemed more of a whiner. In my mind he failed in acting out the role of a general that could convince 45,000 to go up against 300,000. However, the shots of mountains of Afghanistan were awesome, as well as the battle of Gaugamela. I'd like to buy a DVD of just that battle scene. This movie can be compared to the movie Pearl Harbor: an awesome main battle sequence with the rest just mush.
 

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yep

and I sure hope there can be a director's cut DVD with more of the battle scenes... I wanted so bad to see the siege of Tyre - which was a defining moment of alexander's life... but only one mention to Crater...
 
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