- Nov 18, 2003
- Reaction score
- Chicago area
Has anyone seen a TOAW map of central or Southern Africa? I'm working on one right now, but I'm hoping that someone can save me the effort...
Amyrlin said:I started creating a map of southern Africa a while back but didn't get farther than the seacoast outline and some basic large-scale terrain... however it doesn't cover the area that you want, it stopped at far northern Namibia, around Grootfontein/Tsumeb.
The scenario was the one presented in Larry Bond's Vortex - due to terrorist attacks by the ANC before the end of apartheid, a far right wing, pro-apartheid government seizes power and invades Namibia. The Cubans in Angola then drive south to meet the South Africans whilst building up forces for a strike from Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and Botswana through the Transvaal toward Pretoria and Johannesburg. The Americans and British then get involved, Cape Province rebels and asks for American military aid, the Americans invade amphibiously at Durban and then bomb the Cubans to smithereens. That last bit would be hard to model, though, with only two forces...
Ditto. The Cuban drive on Johannesburg would make a fantastic TOAW scenario...Hellfish6 said:Heh -I love that book. I read it when I was 10 or so and have been enthralled by South Africa ever since.
I guess that that's my map you're talking about? I did it at 15 km/hex which in retrospect was a mistake - 10 km/hex would have worked a lot better.Someone did an excellent map of Zimbabwe a year or so ago - I originally based my work around his till I made a poor scale calculation and had to start all over again (a week later, I realized that I hadn't made an error at all - and that the map scale was different on one page than it was on a diff page. )
Great site! Hadn't seen that one, but I did find a similar one somewhere... I'll see if I can dig up the link for it.Case said:Ditto. The Cuban drive on Johannesburg would make a fantastic TOAW scenario...
By the way, http://web.archive.org/web/20030219015221/http://users.iafrica.com/b/ba/bal/ has heaps of excelent South African and Cuban TO&Es.
That was a great scenario! It gave me the motivation to do this current project.I guess that that's my map you're talking about? I did it at 15 km/hex which in retrospect was a mistake - 10 km/hex would have worked a lot better.
The AML-60/AML-90 under the Recon vehicles (French) are almost exactly the same as the Eland-60 and -90s the SADF used. The Elands were license-produced AML-60/90s with some minor modifications to allow them to survive longer in bush conditions.Amyrlin said:While we're on the topic, what would you all reccomend as replacements for the South African equipment not modeled in the TOAW database? As far as I can tell, there is no Eland armored AT vehicle or Oliphant main battle tank in the database... for my planning I put down the Tracked 90mm SPAT Gun for the Eland, and used the Chieftain (improved) for the Oliphant. Any help here would be appreciated...
I'd recommend you create them using the BioEd.Amyrlin said:While we're on the topic, what would you all reccomend as replacements for the South African equipment not modeled in the TOAW database?
You don't need to. I had no trouble realistically modeling everything in the South African inventory using the default game units.Ben Turner said:I'd recommend you create them using the BioEd.
According to my little book of Tanks, the Oliphant is "virtually a new vehicle" from the Centurions originally bought by South Africa. You might want to look at this in detail.Case said:You don't need to. I had no trouble realistically modeling everything in the South African inventory using the default game units.