Elvis
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NDA is probably applicable for the CMN campaign testing question but since Steve already mentioned it (in the quote I posted on this very page) I see no problem with confirming what he says to be true. Campaign testing has not begun with CMN because TO&E still has some finishing up. Until that happens there can be no firm battles built. It has been said many times and many ways and I'm not sure if people believe it or not but....TO&E seems to be the single largest time consumer in the creation of new games and modules. I have no idea how it is done because "employees" are the ones that do it. I just know that the recurring statements regarding hold ups almost always revolve around that. Further, Steve has said publicly and privately that because it was so cumbersome for CMSF it was getting an overhaul for CMN to help streamline the process for furture CM games and modules. Time will tell if the new process is succesful. Also, there is a reason to believe that the campaign testing will take less time with Normandy but I should probably not comment on that until after release.SO Elvis, how long have you been testing Afghanistan? Or is the date NDA applicable? Have you been testing NATO and if so before or after Afghanistan? And finally is CMN at the Campaign testing stage yet?
My best guess for CMN dates is from CMSF module dates. If CMN hasn't started the Campaign testing stage yet then I dont think we will be seeing it soon. Campaigns seem to take about 3-5 months to work out. Unless CMN doesn't follow the pattern.
The other questions are probably less informative than they may seem on the surface. I guess I got Afghan about 2 weeks before I got CMN and that was toward the tailend of 2009. The reason I say it may not be informative is because I was a little surprised (and hurt.......just kidding) when the forums for both were opened to me and some of the guys had already had both titles for a while. Not real idea how long before me but certainly long enough for me to feel like I was playing catchup. It seems that most CMSF testers were left out until it was more ready for hard testing. As I type this I suppose I could go back into each forum and see when the first posts were timestamped but even that wouldn't provide you much info (and may be closer to me walking the edge of NDAs).
NATO I got a decent amount of time after the other 2.
I hope I have answered you clearly and directly.
One further thing on testing an dthe number of testers. Please forgive me if I have said this before. There are many different personality types testing just as there are many different types of players. For instance, I always refer to myself as a "taker" because I almost never touch the editor and have never made a real scenario with any CM title....ever. But some guys enjoy making scenarios more than anything else. I believ Andreas when testing CMx1 got far more enjoyment out of map making and scenario design than he did as a player. And then there are guys who love to make mods and work on textures. And then there are the type that I imagine thewood and Adam to be (either one please forgive me if I am wrong), these guys really enjoy testing what the game system does. What makes it tick. And I believe they hardly play a battle just for the fun of fighting a battle. Nothing wrong with any of these types but each will experience the game in a different way.