A new "Panther" by Rheinmetall
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Yuri0352
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The new Panther certainly appears to be a very capable AFV.
I can't help but notice that Rheinmetall seems to have reintroduced the turret front 'shot trap' of its WWII predecessor.
I can't help but notice that Rheinmetall seems to have reintroduced the turret front 'shot trap' of its WWII predecessor.
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A lot of modern MBTs have this apparent shot trap to one extent or another. Apparently because of "physics" they're not really shot traps.
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Is the front of the Leopard 2 MBT a shot trap? It seems like an APFSDS round would be guided into the turret ring by the converging angle...
Answer (1 of 5): Is the front of the Leopard 2 MBT a shot trap? It seems like an APFSDS round would be guided into the turret ring by the converging angles of the upper hull glacis and the bottom of the turret. This armour profile is only a shot trap for auto-cannon or smaller rounds, which woul...
boylermaker
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Based on what the video focuses on, it seems like the main thing potential purchasers are looking for in a tank is ... the ability to look like it's multi-track drifting?
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apbills
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That doesn't look like "drifting in snow". A better phrase would be "sliding on ice".
boylermaker
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Exactly! Except this upgrade lets you do it in all terrains.
Yes nice tank,unfortunately like all vehicles several big Achilles heals...fuel, parts, and bullets... logistics will kill this vehicle faster than a round will. Considering 99% of all logistic chains use either softskinned or lightly armed transport the loss of the critical supply convoys will render these vehicles as nothing more than armored pillboxes... Ukraine is a good example large convoys wiped out by artillery helicopters or manpads with atgm.... or small arms...27 years in the CF and 18 in the logistics shows how fast an entire unit can be ground to a halt or unable to fly...All it is takes is the supply chain to be cut and your fancy vehicles will be gathering dust...
Yep. Check out the USMC Commandant's new direction for the Corps. He sees what you are saying and is working to counter those limitations.
-no more MBT in the Corp's inventory
-limit the number of attack squadrons
-limit large scale movements of troops and supplies, ect., ect.
The battlefield is shaped by EW and Drones
von Marwitz
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Of course, this approach is cheaper as well. But it also works towards levelling and opening the battlefield for adversaries of lesser potence.
von Marwitz
Tanks are deathtraps now....a well placed minefield and well dug in and hidden antitank teams make mincemeat of a tank platoon...add to it artillery rounds guided by lasers, guided mortar rounds..and new generations of ATGM and tanks die quickly...back are the days of infantry and artillery.. Even aircraft are vulnerable now...