John Fedoriw
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Hi gents,
Hi gents,
I think I may have been playing crest status wrong. Per the rules:
B20.96 BROKEN UNITS: If broken, Crest Infantry must leave their Crest status during the following RtPh.
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A10.51 DIRECTION: A routing unit may never rout toward a Known armed enemy unit ... nor, if ADJACENT to a Known armed enemy unit, may it rout into another hex ADJACENT to that same enemy unit. A routing unit may never move ADJACENT to a Known enemy unit, unless in doing so it is leaving that enemy unit's Location.
If as unit is adjacent to a squad that breaks while in crest status can that unit rout away? Consider this situation:
The US unit must go into the depression per N20.96...BUT in doing so is he not violating A10.51 (for moving from 1 location ADJACENT to a Known enemy unit to another, without leaving that enemy unit's Location)?
Also while I was looking for this I came across this:
B20.92 TEM: The entrenchment benefits (27.3) of Crest status do not apply to Indirect Fire or OVR, or to Direct Fire from any position that has a LOS (A6.3) INTO the Depression hex, or to fire at the Crest target which is not traced through one of the protective Crest hexsides. All fire traced INTO a Depression hex affects units both IN the Depression and units in Crest status in the same hex with the same DR. However, same-level, non-adjacent Direct Fire which is valid against Crest status Infantry does not affect units IN the Depression.
A6.3 DEPRESSIONS: Certain terrain types are defined as being relatively narrow slits carved into the surface below ground level. Although they present no obstacle to LOS between units at or above ground level, units IN Depressions are often out of LOS of even relatively nearby higher level units. A unit must be at least one level higher for every hex of range to units IN a Depression to have a LOS to them [EXC: Units with a clear LOS between them through other continuous Depression hexsides (exclusive of vertices) need not count those intervening Depression hexes in determining the necessary elevation advantage]. A unit in a ground level hex always has a LOS INTO an adjacent level -1 Depression hex, ...
So does this mean in this situation:
If the German fires at the US squad his TEM is 0? Playing in the past I would give the US squad a TEM of 2 here...now I am not so sure...I think he should get a TEM of 0.
I apologize if these question seem stupid because it looks black & white...I guess it is just hard to accept I have been doing something wrong for so long. My opponent missed it as well....
Thanks
Hi gents,
I think I may have been playing crest status wrong. Per the rules:
B20.96 BROKEN UNITS: If broken, Crest Infantry must leave their Crest status during the following RtPh.
&
A10.51 DIRECTION: A routing unit may never rout toward a Known armed enemy unit ... nor, if ADJACENT to a Known armed enemy unit, may it rout into another hex ADJACENT to that same enemy unit. A routing unit may never move ADJACENT to a Known enemy unit, unless in doing so it is leaving that enemy unit's Location.
If as unit is adjacent to a squad that breaks while in crest status can that unit rout away? Consider this situation:
The US unit must go into the depression per N20.96...BUT in doing so is he not violating A10.51 (for moving from 1 location ADJACENT to a Known enemy unit to another, without leaving that enemy unit's Location)?
Also while I was looking for this I came across this:
B20.92 TEM: The entrenchment benefits (27.3) of Crest status do not apply to Indirect Fire or OVR, or to Direct Fire from any position that has a LOS (A6.3) INTO the Depression hex, or to fire at the Crest target which is not traced through one of the protective Crest hexsides. All fire traced INTO a Depression hex affects units both IN the Depression and units in Crest status in the same hex with the same DR. However, same-level, non-adjacent Direct Fire which is valid against Crest status Infantry does not affect units IN the Depression.
A6.3 DEPRESSIONS: Certain terrain types are defined as being relatively narrow slits carved into the surface below ground level. Although they present no obstacle to LOS between units at or above ground level, units IN Depressions are often out of LOS of even relatively nearby higher level units. A unit must be at least one level higher for every hex of range to units IN a Depression to have a LOS to them [EXC: Units with a clear LOS between them through other continuous Depression hexsides (exclusive of vertices) need not count those intervening Depression hexes in determining the necessary elevation advantage]. A unit in a ground level hex always has a LOS INTO an adjacent level -1 Depression hex, ...
So does this mean in this situation:
If the German fires at the US squad his TEM is 0? Playing in the past I would give the US squad a TEM of 2 here...now I am not so sure...I think he should get a TEM of 0.
I apologize if these question seem stupid because it looks black & white...I guess it is just hard to accept I have been doing something wrong for so long. My opponent missed it as well....
Thanks
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