Not by rule. Per the ordnance note the Chinese "used them primarily in the field artillery role." If you think of a gun as artillery, you don't set it up and man as a close, direct fire weapon. As some had it, "The moral is to the physical as three to one."Do they have gunshields?
See chapter C footnote 29:"Big Bertha's" from WW1 had gun shields, I don't think they would ever be confused with Infantry guns. Even if it's the same gun, Use should play a roll. Notice also the Chinese 75* is horse drawn, I would bet that most were also H-D in German service, at least in infantry divisions.
The problem here is that the guns are the same, requiring the same crew size and the same ammo storage volume.GUNSHIELDS: While many ART and AA Guns also had gunshields, their crews were too large and their ammunition too bulky for their gunshields to have a consistent effect in game terms.
Every photo of a 25 pounder which I have ever seen indicates that this weapon was manufactured with a gunshield.Oh, there is no doubt about the use, it's just these are the same guns!
Mind you, a 25pounder has no gunshield while the 37mm AT gun does
Maybe it falls under Chapter C Footnote 29?Every photo of a 25 pounder which I have ever seen indicates that this weapon was manufactured with a gunshield.
Edits made and submitted. Thanks!These two weapons are INF guns used by the Chinese. In Chinese use they are ART guns.
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While I agree, look at the 25pounder versus the 37mm example, these two weapons are INF guns for most other nationalities which use them.Maybe it falls under Chapter C Footnote 29?
29. 11.5 GUNSHIELDS: While many ART and AA Guns also had gunshields, their crews were too large and their ammunition too bulky for their gunshields to have a consistent effect in game terms.
What other nationalities in ASL uses the 25-pounder besides the British?While I agree, look at the 25pounder versus the 37mm example, these two weapons are INF guns for most other nationalities which use them.
I mean the 75 INF gun is an INF gun for the Germans and axis minor but an ART for the Chinese. It's just odd.What other nationalities in ASL uses the 25-pounder besides the British?
Well, as has been pointed out before with reference to the footnote:I mean the 75 INF gun is an INF gun for the Germans and axis minor but an ART for the Chinese. It's just odd.
I don't think it means they were inept. I think it means they thought of the guns differently, and therefore set them up, manned and serviced them differently. If someone took an AT-gun and, say, mounted it on a ramp to use for indirect fire, you might not give that crew the benefit of the gunshield either.This is probably to mean that the Chinese crews were more inept to use these INF Guns than Germans/Russians. Probably due to less thorough training, whatever.