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I'm like Plano 3701 for Nationalies and BoxBox for Information (clearly labeled using Avery labels). My motto is - if you can grab any counter in about 10 seconds and have any potential scenario required counter available and easily grabbed - you got a good system no matter what the type used.

Got it, Vic - nice stuff! Pipcorn's Attempt looks especially cool.. Don

Not referring to a HASL map, or to a CH somethingorother- but a potential MMP thing for them to consider. 2 new 'Huertgen' geoboards & OLs, along with some focused scenarios using both new and existing boards / OLs. Just need some good scenario designers... (I can do the maps)

Interesting idea - 'limited cover'. While you can always stack 3 squads per hex regardless of TEM, how protective that terrain is may be something to limit via SSR. OR, as you say, simply make it Light Woods. Of the two, the second idea is simplest, and due to that I'd go with your...

The use of Orchards wouldn't extend to their lack of -1 TEM as with Woods. An SSR would be something like this: 'All Orchard hexes should be treated like Woods in all respects. The Green terrain outlines in Orchard hexes are treated like Woods terrain outlines'. Simple.

Yea, could use that SSR for the existing Woods boards I guess. But I'd like to see a sort of 'hide and seek' or maybe better 'sneak-shot hell' LOS using actual green terrain images. Looking at Huertgen photos, it looks like you could sometimes see for great distance (ie. down an Orchard row)...

Sure! Would prefer covering more ground with standard boards, but I'm up for it if you are, Pete :)

Yep. Preparing some boards or OLs to both represent Huertgen, but also be versatile enough to use for PTO, might work. Take a look at Board 73. SSR: Orchards are Woods (implying that the green blotches are Woods LOS obstacles). OLs to cover the Grain. More OLs to be more representative...

I'm up for doing the boards, but will likely hold for now and wait some qualified scenario guys join in... I've found that collaboration is best here.

The Huertgen terrain is unique I think, based on what I've read. 'Managed forest' - with often much space in between Woods. Lots of irregularity. Dense, but not exactly like our boards 5 and 52 where there's no LOS at all between obstacles. Unique terrain - combined with standard geoboards.

Thanks for the plug, Vic. But what I'm more interested in is to do some geoboards/OLs with a Huertgen theme which would allow designers (such as yourself) to prepare a variety of Huertgen related scenarios. I think a starting place could be to piggyback on existing boards (ie. 73), as well as...

Evan, thanks. I'd like to respond in detail asap. Cannot right now. Good commentary. For now - yes, there are a lot of miscellaneous Huertgen actions that could lend themselves. Yes, the geoboards and OLs should be both specific and also allow for versatility. Both 'objective' (hill...

Wondering if there's interest in a Huertgen Forest thing? Imagining 1-2 geoboards, maybe some Overlays. Were there enough actions to justify something here??

I'm going with: (new) ‘Cornfields’ – all Grain on board 90 is considered Cornfield terrain. Cornfields are considered Grain (B15) in all respects, but incur a +2 (not +1) LOS Hindrance per hex. Fire Lanes traced through more than one (1) cornfield hex are treated as per E.1.71. Kindling of...

I can't help but to remember working in cornfields in Illinois as a kid. No visibility whatsoever into those fields from only yards away. I'm leaning more towards bocage than kunai here, though I appreciate the comparisons. I think concealment can be gained.

Didn't mean to turn this thread into a sidetrack Cornfield conversation.. Really had intended to discuss whether there's interest in East Front scenarios, etc.. (sigh)

Would like to see it!

Which brings me to mention that Concealment gain should probably be given to Russian infantry inside a Cornfield at their turn end, provided there is >= one Cornfield hex between said Russian and German.

A 'companion' scenario below - designed to mate with The Cornfields. Haven't tried playing them together yet, but would really like to hear from you if you do.

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