Corporal Kindel
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I was web surfing for the hell of it and came across this ...
... I've always been under the impression that German Pioneers were SMG heavy (aka. the 838 squad, similar to Russian SMG squads). But, according to the referenced post (not sure how accurate it is) an early war German Pioneer squad, according to "official" TOE only has 3 more riflemen (2 for late war) than a standard German 10-man infantry squad (SL [smg], ASL [rifle], 3-man MG crew [1 rifle, 1 pistol, 1 mg34], 5 riflemen [or 4 riflemen in many cases]), and is otherwise armed exactly the same. To my way of thinking, that would make a pioneer squad 568 at best .. not that it matters .. after all, it's just a game. But, it got me searching for some kind of official/valid TOE for German pioneer units in WW2 (and their squad level disposition/arms), and I came up boxcars .. simply can't find any kind of "official" TOE as to German Pioneer units? It's frustrating, anybody have any additional info or references?
... I've always been under the impression that German Pioneers were SMG heavy (aka. the 838 squad, similar to Russian SMG squads). But, according to the referenced post (not sure how accurate it is) an early war German Pioneer squad, according to "official" TOE only has 3 more riflemen (2 for late war) than a standard German 10-man infantry squad (SL [smg], ASL [rifle], 3-man MG crew [1 rifle, 1 pistol, 1 mg34], 5 riflemen [or 4 riflemen in many cases]), and is otherwise armed exactly the same. To my way of thinking, that would make a pioneer squad 568 at best .. not that it matters .. after all, it's just a game. But, it got me searching for some kind of official/valid TOE for German pioneer units in WW2 (and their squad level disposition/arms), and I came up boxcars .. simply can't find any kind of "official" TOE as to German Pioneer units? It's frustrating, anybody have any additional info or references?