boylermaker
Senior Member
From looking through the gamesquad archives, I am pretty sure that this sequence of events is legal, but correct me if I am wrong:
AFV and squad in A1 declare armored assault.
1) AFV starts (1 MP), squad spends no MF.
2) Move to A2 (2 MP/1MF).
3) Move to A3 (3 MP/2MF).
4) In A3, the AFV fires its smoke discharger successfully (4MP/2MF).
5) Move to A4 (5MP/3MF).
6) Move to A5 (6MP/4MF), the squad is done moving.
7) The AFV turns its VCA (7MP) and stops (8MP).
Assuming that the above is legit:
A gun that fires Area Target Type in response to 2, 3, 5, and 6, will clearly hit both the AFV and the squad.
Firing ATT in response to 7 would seem to only hit the AFV, since the squad is no longer moving.
Does firing ATT against the MP spent in 1 and 4 hit the AFV and the squad? Or just the AFV that spent the MP? Is the squad "moving" for the purposes of A8.1, even though it has not (#1) or did not just then (#4) expend any MF: "Defensive First Fire attacks affect only the moving unit/stack regardless of other units that occupy the same or intervening hexes at the instant of attack."
If you think that attacks vs #4 will hit both the AFV and the squad, there is a followup:
What if a mortar fired at #3, hitting both the AFV and the squad, but both survive. Now the AFV fires its sD. May the mortar fire again?
Per A8.14, "A unit that survives a Defensive First Fire attack with no effect can be fired on again in that same Location during its MPh before expending additional MF/MP, but only by different attackers or if it expended at least two MF/MP in that Location (see 9.2)." A9.2 is about MGs specifically, the Ordnance rule is C6.17: "An ordnance weapon may not Defensive First Fire at the same target in the same Location more times (including the use of Multiple-ROF/Intensive-Fire) than the number of MF/MP (including Delay MP; D2.17) expended by that target (in its current Target Facing, if an AFV) in that Location."
AFV and squad in A1 declare armored assault.
1) AFV starts (1 MP), squad spends no MF.
2) Move to A2 (2 MP/1MF).
3) Move to A3 (3 MP/2MF).
4) In A3, the AFV fires its smoke discharger successfully (4MP/2MF).
5) Move to A4 (5MP/3MF).
6) Move to A5 (6MP/4MF), the squad is done moving.
7) The AFV turns its VCA (7MP) and stops (8MP).
Assuming that the above is legit:
A gun that fires Area Target Type in response to 2, 3, 5, and 6, will clearly hit both the AFV and the squad.
Firing ATT in response to 7 would seem to only hit the AFV, since the squad is no longer moving.
Does firing ATT against the MP spent in 1 and 4 hit the AFV and the squad? Or just the AFV that spent the MP? Is the squad "moving" for the purposes of A8.1, even though it has not (#1) or did not just then (#4) expend any MF: "Defensive First Fire attacks affect only the moving unit/stack regardless of other units that occupy the same or intervening hexes at the instant of attack."
If you think that attacks vs #4 will hit both the AFV and the squad, there is a followup:
What if a mortar fired at #3, hitting both the AFV and the squad, but both survive. Now the AFV fires its sD. May the mortar fire again?
Per A8.14, "A unit that survives a Defensive First Fire attack with no effect can be fired on again in that same Location during its MPh before expending additional MF/MP, but only by different attackers or if it expended at least two MF/MP in that Location (see 9.2)." A9.2 is about MGs specifically, the Ordnance rule is C6.17: "An ordnance weapon may not Defensive First Fire at the same target in the same Location more times (including the use of Multiple-ROF/Intensive-Fire) than the number of MF/MP (including Delay MP; D2.17) expended by that target (in its current Target Facing, if an AFV) in that Location."