Leadership question

[Porta]

Hi to all
Can a leader apply his drm to mg shooting with rof at a target other than the previous one?
Tks

 

[Binchois]

Yes. But he cannot add other units/SWs to that MG’s FP, unless they were “firegroup-ed” together all along.

 

[Porta]

ok, tks!

 

[Kijug]

So a confusing issue all the time, related to this thread.

If a squad uses its Inherent FP + Leader at target #1, then uses its LMG at target #2 and gets ROF. Since he used the Leader for target #1, the LMG doesn't get any Leader direction bonus at all, correct?

I.e., the Leader can only direct one fire action (albeit ROF) not direct one "unit". Correct?

 

[clubby]

Correct

7.5 FIRE DIRECTION: A single leader cannot direct more than one weapon/unit per phase unless they are part of the same FG. Hence a squad that elects to use its inherent FP in a different attack than that of the MG it is manning does not get the leadership benefit if given to the MG instead. However, a leader can direct the fire of a MG as many times as the MG can fire, even if he also directed other units as part of a FG in the MG's previous attack. Leader direction used during Defensive First Fire can be used again in Subsequent First Fire, FPF, or Final Fire, but again only for one firing unit/SW or FG—and that unit/SW/FG can only include firers he directed during First Fire;

 

[Binchois]

So a confusing issue all the time, related to this thread.

If a squad uses its Inherent FP + Leader at target #1, then uses its LMG at target #2 and gets ROF. Since he used the Leader for target #1, the LMG doesn't get any Leader direction bonus at all, correct?

I.e., the Leader can only direct one fire action (albeit ROF) not direct one "unit". Correct?

Your specific example is correct, but your final, generalized statement can use some refinement.

A leader is allowed to direct one unit or one firegroup - for as many times as it can fire during that phase - so long as the entire FG inhabits the same Location. A squad and a MG can First Fire at one target and the SFF at a different target, all directed by the same leader. Once part of the original FG breaks off to fire alone (as when a MG continues with ROF), the leader may continue to direct that subset of the original FG. A return to the full FG is even possible as per the following (older) Q&A:

Q. (A7.53) A leader directs Defensive First Fire of a squad and a MG and then directs First Fire attacks with the MG's ROF. During Subsequent First Fire, may he again direct the fire of the squad and MG?​

A. Yes. [An97; Mw]​

The main rules for this are A7.53 and A7.531.

 

[Mister T]

If a squad uses its Inherent FP + Leader at target #1, then uses its LMG at target #2 and gets ROF. Since he used the Leader for target #1, the LMG doesn't get any Leader direction bonus at all, correct?

Correct.

I.e., the Leader can only direct one fire action (albeit ROF) not direct one "unit". Correct?

A leader can possibly direct several "fire actions" during one fire phase.
EX
Shot 1: First Fire squad+lmg+leader
Shot 2: (ROF on shot 1) lmg+leader
Shot 3: SFF squad+lmg+leader
Shot 4: FPF squad+lmg+leader

 

[mgmasl]

Is a 8-0 leader directing Allied troops a 8+1? Or leadership is not worsened beyond “0”

 

[von Marwitz]

Is a 8-0 leader directing Allied troops a 8+1? Or leadership is not worsened beyond “0”

A10.7 says

"The leadership rating of a leader is worsened by one whenever influencing Allied Troops of a different nationality. "

No indication for a limitation beyond zero in the rule. Thus my answer would be that a 8-0 directs Allied Troops as a 8+1.

von Marwitz