Bypass Sleeze...not applicalbe?

[Kijug]

If a BU CT AFV were in bypass of a building hex which has an enemy unit in an “upper level” then neither is subject to having to fire in their own hex. Example from A7.212...read the two bold texts.

EX: As long as the squad and the halftrack are in the same Location (even if in Bypass), neither can fire outside of that Location. The squad can attack the PRC with TPBF but the PRC, being BU, cannot attack back. If the squad were in an upper-level Location of the hex, it still could attack only its own Location or that of the halftrack. The upper-level squad would still attack the PRC with TPBF, but now the Passengers could attack back (D6.61) although only with PBF (if within one level), not TPBF; if CE, the HT (and its Passengers) could fire outside its Location. If the squad were in an upper-level Location and the halftrack were instead a BU CT AFV, then neither would be restricted by the other.

So, yes/no? Not that it happens often, it a unit could move up a level (maybe) to get away from the restriction and still be in that hex.

 

[Carln0130]

IF BU is the key there. If CE, you're screwed.

 

[Craig Benn]

The rule is you cant fire out if there's an enemy unit in your location OR you can get TPBF which you can from higher up in the same hex.

So I reckon you're okay firing from a cellar as firing up is not TPBF and the cellar is a separate location.

Similarly pillbox as you don't have LOS to the same hex and pillbox itself is a location.

 

[Carln0130]

I know you are right on the PB and believe you are right on the Cellar as well.

 

[jrv]

Note also that a cellar does not get TPBF vs an AFV (or infantry) in bypass of the building because it is not in the same location and it is not above the vehicle. This is even though, depending on the cellar rules, the unit in the cellar may be at the same level as the unit in bypass.

JR