Surely dumb question about VBM

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D2.31 says "..VBM is not allowed along a hexside already containing another Bypass vehicle/wreck along that hexside.."

Is this limit applied to either side of the hexside -similar to hexsides in wire hexes per inf bypass- or only to the exact hex and hexside being occupied by the other vehicle/wreck?.

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D2.31 says "..VBM is not allowed along a hexside already containing another Bypass vehicle/wreck along that hexside.."

Is this limit applied to either side of the hexside -similar to hexsides in wire hexes per inf bypass- or only to the exact hex and hexside being occupied by the other vehicle/wreck?.

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So, if one looks in the compiled Q&A:
D2.31
D2.31 says : “... VBM is not allowed along a hexside already containing another Bypass vehicle/wreck along that hexside.” Can a
vehicle bypass a hexside, one of the vertices of which belongs to another hexside which contains another Bypass vehicle/wreck?
A. Yes.
 

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I think this Q&A is refering to another hexside of the same hex with a connecting vértice.. IMO because ASLRB says a hexside is formed by the hexside and the two vertices. So the question about if an occupied vertice is enough to limit VBM in this hexside.
I´m trying to refer to the hex not occupied by the vehicle/wreck at the other side of the bypassed hexside.
Sorry about my english..
 

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I think this Q&A is refering to another hexside of the same hex with a connecting vértice.. IMO because ASLRB says a hexside is formed by the hexside and the two vertices. So the question about if an occupied vertice is enough to limit VBM in this hexside.
I´m trying to refer to the hex not occupied by the vehicle/wreck at the other side of the bypassed hexside.
Sorry about my english..
No rule book handy but I think you are right about the Q&A pertaining to a connecting hexside vertex.

I seem to recall the hexside bypass blockage you are asking about is clearly blocked for both sides of the hexside but cant provide a rules citation at the moment.
 
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The fact that a vehicle on one side a wall will stop VBM one the other side of the wall is called out as counter-intuitive at http://www.ths85.net/zekesaslparadise/asl-physics.html so I would gather from that and the rule that a wreck in either hex along that hexside stops VBM.

Sometimes, no amount of VBM clearance is enough. VBM is prohibited along a hex/hexside if there is a vehicle (or wreck) in the adjacent hex in Bypass along that same hexside [D2.31]. Even if it is a wall hexside, with ample Bypass clearance in each hex [EX: the 10X6/Y7 hexside].
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The rule speaks of a hexside and not of one of the hexes that it belongs to.
So I think that it applies to a vehicle bypassing an obstacle in one or the other hex sharing the hexside.
 

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I seem to recall the hexside bypass blockage you are asking about is clearly BLOCKED for both sides of the hexside but cant provide a rules citation at the moment.
Sorry about my English! I somehow left out the most important word ('blocked') in my earlier post.

I remember that bypass wrecks/vehicles block the hexside as one of the few EXCs to the general principle that vbm occurs on one side of the hexside or the other.
 

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VBM is a weird concept throughout the rules. Sometimes you are actually IN one hex but not the other adjacent hex and not traveling along the hexside but in other instances [EX: B25.6 Spreading Fire] you are assumed to be "straddling" the hexside. If I had to guess I believe this conundrum came about because of several people writing the rules and having differing views of the principals of VBM {SWAG only}, hence we are left with some seemingly conflicting views of the effects of bypass.:unsure::)
 

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D2.31 says "..VBM is not allowed along a hexside already containing another Bypass vehicle/wreck along that hexside.."

Is this limit applied to either side of the hexside -similar to hexsides in wire hexes per inf bypass- or only to the exact hex and hexside being occupied by the other vehicle/wreck?.
Yes - see the D2.3 example, 2nd paragraph:
"If a vehicle were Bypassing the woods in J10 along the J10-I10 hexside (assuming there was room enough), another vehicle in I10 could not Bypass the building along the I10-J10 hexside."
 

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Yes - see the D2.3 example, 2nd paragraph:
"If a vehicle were Bypassing the woods in J10 along the J10-I10 hexside (assuming there was room enough), another vehicle in I10 could not Bypass the building along the I10-J10 hexside."
"Read carefully the EX! read carefully the EX!! read carefully the EX!!!..." :rolleyes:
 
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