Baz 45: WP5 instead of WP6?

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My Baz 45s have WP5 instead of WP6. Anyone else, or is it my installation?

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Mine don't have 16TK on them either, although the '43 and '44 do have the TK#. I have version 6.4.2. Was there a fix without a version update?

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Mine don't have 16TK on them either, although the '43 and '44 do have the TK#. I have version 6.4.2. Was there a fix without a version update?

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Last time you played the Germans vs. the Russians, you've got hacked. :D

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Mine don't have 16TK on them either, although the '43 and '44 do have the TK#. I have version 6.4.2. Was there a fix without a version update?

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No updates that I'm aware of. I'm using VASL 6.4.2 as well. Here's my Baz:

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My problem. I have a playtest .mdx that is probably overwriting it.

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Hmm, I wonder what kind of goodness is coming our way if JR is working with people on a playtest?
It was not anything I was working on. A friend pulled me in for a few games, that's all. It was a couple years ago. I only occasionally use vasl for setups so I don't necessarily notice changes that a regular vasl player might spot fairly quickly.

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It was not anything I was working on. A friend pulled me in for a few games, that's all. It was a couple years ago. I only occasionally use vasl for setups so I don't necessarily notice changes that a regular vasl player might spot fairly quickly.

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I think it was you got your 45 BAZ from wikipedia..... :D
 

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The wikipedia article seems pretty good. According to it, Bazookas were sometimes used from upper levels of buildings to attack the top armor of tanks. That rule was present in Squad Leader but got dropped in ASL.

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:) nah, its got WP6 as of October 43, not 45..... :D

"...
  • Used the improved M6A3 HEAT, M7A3 practice, and M10 Bursting Smoke (White Phosphorus) rockets (Weight: 3.4 lbs., Velocity: 265 feet per second).
  • Could penetrate up to 4 inches (102 mm) of armor
  • Supplanted the M1A1 in production beginning in October, 1943..."
 

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:) nah, its got WP6 as of October 43, not 45..... :D

"...
  • Used the improved M6A3 HEAT, M7A3 practice, and M10 Bursting Smoke (White Phosphorus) rockets (Weight: 3.4 lbs., Velocity: 265 feet per second).
  • Could penetrate up to 4 inches (102 mm) of armor
  • Supplanted the M1A1 in production beginning in October, 1943..."
The fact that the M9 Bazooka was capable of firing the M10 bursting smoke rocket and started being made in 1943 doesn't mean the M10 bursting smoke rocket was manufactured in 1943. The WP rocket may have been introduced later. I think you may be reading more into the article than it says.

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Per "The Bazooka" by Gordon L. Rottman (Osprey), "The M10 series WP smoke rockets would only be seen in small numbers from very late 1944." Again from that same book, "The need for bazookas
was such that M1A1 production could not be halted for M9 retooling. It took time for the much-revised M9 to enter production and reach the field, the earliest examples arriving in August 1944." It looks as though it is possible that production of the M9 began in late 1943. No matter when it began manufacture, the M9 was in use for several months before the appearance of the M10 bursting smoke ammunition.

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Just blame the WP5 on your VASL counter on an invasion by Nordic Aliens into your CPU.......


On a less humorous note, the same source you cite notes on page 33 that several dozen HC smoke rocket warheads were combat tested in Operation Varsity. This may be an interesting SSR addition for scenarios set in that time period - they already give us the 57mm RCL in one of them - perhaps a 45 BAZ with a s6, WP6 ?
 
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